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Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:52 am
by mgood
I had made a quick trip out of town one weekend and used my school backpack/bookbag as my luggage since I had to take some books with me to study, it was easiest just to stuff a change of clothes in there and go. Had my pistol in there to.
I got back home just in time to get to class. I'm sitting at my desk in the classroom and open my backpack to get a book . . . and guess what I noticed that I had forgotten to take out of that bag.
KRM45 wrote:I don't know about you, but I generally try to refrain from admitting that I broke the law on an open forum. Especially prior to the statute of limitations running its course...
I'm not too worried about getting busted for admitting I accidently broke this law a year or so ago.
1. I think they've got better things to do than try to prosecute me for something like that based only on me saying it happened. I could be making up a story just because it sounds good.
2. IANAL, but I think they have to have a specific crime on a specific date (or range of dates like "on or about February 3, 2011"). I don't remember when this took place. With a little thought, I could narrow it down to which semester, but not which week. No one but me knew about it, so there's no way to confirm when, or even if, it happened. Yeah, I was nervous at the time, but once back in my vehicle, there was no way to prove that I'd ever had anything in the building that I wasn't supposed to have in there.
Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:15 am
by KRM45
mgood wrote:I had made a quick trip out of town one weekend and used my school backpack/bookbag as my luggage since I had to take some books with me to study, it was easiest just to stuff a change of clothes in there and go. Had my pistol in there to.
I got back home just in time to get to class. I'm sitting at my desk in the classroom and open my backpack to get a book . . . and guess what I noticed that I had forgotten to take out of that bag.
I'm not sure i believe this story... Everyone knows that if a gun makes it to a classroom it will begin randomly shooting...

Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:48 am
by mgood
KRM45 wrote:mgood wrote:I had made a quick trip out of town one weekend and used my school backpack/bookbag as my luggage since I had to take some books with me to study, it was easiest just to stuff a change of clothes in there and go. Had my pistol in there to.
I got back home just in time to get to class. I'm sitting at my desk in the classroom and open my backpack to get a book . . . and guess what I noticed that I had forgotten to take out of that bag.
I'm not sure i believe this story... Everyone knows that if a gun makes it to a classroom it will begin randomly shooting...

Yeah, pretty amazing. Got out of there without shooting anyone.
Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:42 am
by Vecco
dicion wrote:Wait, you mean, you didn't go off rampaging and shooting people randomly?
I don't believe you, as according to the antis, everyone in your situation will suddenly hulk out, and begin shooting people left and right for no reason... after all, it's the gun that makes you do it.. not the person shooting it, right?
(Edited out incriminating information, in case you want to remove it in the future)
It was a Gun Free Zone,,, nothing he could of done

Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:44 am
by Commander
Thomas wrote:KRM45 wrote:I don't know about you, but I generally try to refrain from admitting that I broke the law on an open forum. Especially prior to the statute of limitations running its course...
However as far as I can tell, Dan20703 did not admit to breaking the law. He may have alluded to doing so thus providing probable cause, which also should be avoided.
In order to file a complaint wouldn't there have to be a witness of some type or incriminating evidence?
Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:42 pm
by rdcrags
The thing I find interesting about the Original Post is this issue: You find yourself in a possible felony position due to an oversight. Suddenly a BG stands up and starts popping people at random. Would you hit the dirt and play dead or try to run away so as to avoid being exposed as committing a crime yourself, or would you use your weapon to stop the carnage and accept the consequences? Is the answer different if your wife and kids are there, too?
Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:30 pm
by big 54r
rdcrags wrote:The thing I find interesting about the Original Post is this issue: You find yourself in a possible felony position due to an oversight. Suddenly a BG stands up and starts popping people at random. Would you hit the dirt and play dead or try to run away so as to avoid being exposed as committing a crime yourself, or would you use your weapon to stop the carnage and accept the consequences? Is the answer different if your wife and kids are there, too?
umm...good question...something to ponder.
Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:32 pm
by speedsix
...research the law of greater good....
Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:48 pm
by Vecco
5th amendment protection
Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:40 pm
by johnson0317
I know this is kind of an old thread, but it brings up a good point. If you carry your weapon most of the time, it becomes second nature. In the short time I have carried my Kahr PM9, only at night, only at home (taking the CHL course in two days), it has gotten to the point I forget it is there.
There is the little cowboy/cowgirl in a person that makes them want to touch, fondle, remove, disassemble, reassemble, rechamber, and so on when they first start to carry. I dare you to say that is not true!

There is a little boy/girl in all of us. However, after a couple of weeks, the desire to remove it, to inspect it once again, quickly fades. Now I put it on at night and forget it is there. The only problem with that is that I have dropped trou before getting into bed, on a couple of occasions, only to remember I had not put my gun in the safe. I can well see how you can get into a free-fire zone and forget you had it on.
I will freely admit, once again, that after I put the CTC Laserguards on my PM9 and my XDm 3.8" 9 mm, they did get a lot more attention as I would draw them and practiced putting the spot on something. But,what the hell. I may be 54 years old, but my mind is permamently goverened to somewhere around 25 or so.
RJ
Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:18 am
by stompme
Do not pocket carry unless you have some sort of airlight .38, but then still you are limited...Do not pocket carry... My CHL instructor carried like that, and he is nothing but a CARMAX salesman. OK, that means nothing, but dont carry in your damn pocket, because you will just fumble when it is time to take care of a real-life threat situation.
Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:56 am
by Keith B
stompme wrote:Do not pocket carry unless you have some sort of airlight .38, but then still you are limited...Do not pocket carry... My CHL instructor carried like that, and he is nothing but a CARMAX salesman. OK, that means nothing, but dont carry in your darn pocket, because you will just fumble when it is time to take care of a real-life threat situation.
I disagree. I pocket carry frequently and actually think I have faster access at times. I can walk from the store to the car with my hand in my pocket and on the grip and look very inconspicuous. Try that with your hand under your cover shirt carrying at 5 o'clock.
Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:44 am
by USA1
Keith B wrote:stompme wrote:Do not pocket carry unless you have some sort of airlight .38, but then still you are limited...Do not pocket carry... My CHL instructor carried like that, and he is nothing but a CARMAX salesman. OK, that means nothing, but dont carry in your darn pocket, because you will just fumble when it is time to take care of a real-life threat situation.
I disagree. I pocket carry frequently and actually think I have faster access at times. I can walk from the store to the car with my hand in my pocket and on the grip and look very inconspicuous. Try that with your hand under your cover shirt carrying at 5 o'clock.
If I'm wearing pants, I'm pocket carrying. I practice drawing frequently and have never fumbled with my gun.
...Perhaps the CHL instructor/CARMAX salesman isn't using an adequate pocket holster if he even uses one at all.
Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:42 am
by 74novaman
Keith B wrote:stompme wrote:Do not pocket carry unless you have some sort of airlight .38, but then still you are limited...Do not pocket carry... My CHL instructor carried like that, and he is nothing but a CARMAX salesman. OK, that means nothing, but dont carry in your darn pocket, because you will just fumble when it is time to take care of a real-life threat situation.
I disagree. I pocket carry frequently and actually think I have faster access at times. I can walk from the store to the car with my hand in my pocket and on the grip and look very inconspicuous. Try that with your hand under your cover shirt carrying at 5 o'clock.
I'd love to see a comparison between going for a draw from a pocket holster with hand on gun and IWB having to clear cover garments. I bet I'm faster hand on gun, personally. That's also why I carry a hammerless. Nothing to snag, no worries. Just a smooth, fast draw.
Re: Pocket carry was too comfortable
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:10 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
stompme wrote:Do not pocket carry unless you have some sort of airlight .38, but then still you are limited...Do not pocket carry... My CHL instructor carried like that, and he is nothing but a CARMAX salesman. OK, that means nothing, but dont carry in your darn pocket, because you will just fumble when it is time to take care of a real-life threat situation.
Welcome to the TexasCHLforum.
I've read all 7 of your posts and you certainly are not shy about stating absolutes on subjects that are matters of personal opinion. I see you just joined us yesterday and perhaps you should read some of the threads to get a feel for the customary demeanor. Also, be sure to read the PM one of the Moderators sent.
Thanks,
Chas.