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OCD wrote:

bigred90gt wrote:there is no such place as Princeton-Plainsboro, NJ. They are two separate municipalities.

Like Dallas-Fort Worth, TX.

Possibly, but Dallas-Ft Worth area is a recognized area, not a city. Princeton-Plainsboro is a completely made-up name for a show. There is a Princeton, and there is a Plainsboro, but in the year I lived in Plainsboro, I never heard them referred to together in that way.

bigred90gt wrote:

OCD wrote:

bigred90gt wrote:there is no such place as Princeton-Plainsboro, NJ. They are two separate municipalities.

Like Dallas-Fort Worth, TX.

Possibly, but Dallas-Ft Worth area is a recognized area, not a city. Princeton-Plainsboro is a completely made-up name for a show. There is a Princeton, and there is a Plainsboro, but in the year I lived in Plainsboro, I never heard them referred to together in that way.

To continue the thread drift, while I'm happy to take bigred90gt's word re Princeton-Plainsboro (though Wikipedia claims that a real "Princeton Plainsboro Hospital has been in the works for years now and is being built across the street from Princeton in West Windsor."), the DFW thing reminds me of SEATAC. First there were two cities in WA - Seattle and Tacoma. Then there was an airport - Seattle-Tacoma Airport, known as SEATAC. Then the area around the airport incorporated itself into the City of Seatac, WA.

So who knows what might happen?

bigred90gt wrote:They also pulled my father in law over at 3:00 am because he was driving in the left lane (in NJ, the left lane is strictly for passing).

Texas too.

Bullwhip wrote:

bigred90gt wrote:They also pulled my father in law over at 3:00 am because he was driving in the left lane (in NJ, the left lane is strictly for passing).

Texas too.

As many times as I've heard that, I've never been able to find any language in the transportation code to support it, and anyone who has tried to convince me, has never been able to provide the language either. Please, if you can find that written in the laws of the road in Texas, share it, because I'd actually like to read it for myself.

bigred90gt wrote:

Bullwhip wrote:

bigred90gt wrote:They also pulled my father in law over at 3:00 am because he was driving in the left lane (in NJ, the left lane is strictly for passing).

Texas too.

As many times as I've heard that, I've never been able to find any language in the transportation code to support it, and anyone who has tried to convince me, has never been able to provide the language either. Please, if you can find that written in the laws of the road in Texas, share it, because I'd actually like to read it for myself.

On a lot of roads these days you will see signs that indicate that the left lane is for passing only.
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Perhaps, and I'm not arguing with signs adopted by specific locales. I'm talking about it being written into the transportation code that the left lane is for passing only.

In Texas, a sign can be posted by the DOT or municipality designating the left lane for passing only, so long as it says "Left Lane for Passing Only", but as far as I have been able to find, there is nothing in the code itself that automatically designates the left lane as a passing only lane.

Here is the New Jersey code:
39:4-88. Traffic on marked lanes
When a roadway has been divided into clearly marked lanes for traffic, drivers of vehicles shall obey the following regulations:

a. A vehicle shall normally be driven in the lane nearest the right-hand edge or curb of the roadway when that lane is available for travel, except when overtaking another vehicle or in preparation for a left turn.

My father in law was preparing to turn left, but being that he wasnt sure where, he was in the lane for a few minutes.

Here is the Texas Transportation Code's relevant section:
Sec. 545.051. DRIVING ON RIGHT SIDE OF ROADWAY. (a) An operator on a roadway of sufficient width shall drive on the right half of the roadway, unless:
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(4) the operator is on a roadway restricted to one-way traffic (e.g. - a multi-lane highway)


Sorry for the continued thread-jack.

bigred90gt wrote:

Bullwhip wrote:

bigred90gt wrote:They also pulled my father in law over at 3:00 am because he was driving in the left lane (in NJ, the left lane is strictly for passing).

Texas too.

As many times as I've heard that, I've never been able to find any language in the transportation code to support it, and anyone who has tried to convince me, has never been able to provide the language either. Please, if you can find that written in the laws of the road in Texas, share it, because I'd actually like to read it for myself.

Ask, and ye shall receive.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/d ... tm#545.051" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Perhaps you should re-read that statute (and perhaps look at the post above yours). If there is more than one lane of travel in your direction, you are not restricted from the left lane unless the municipality or DOT specifically posts signs stating as such.

bigred90gt wrote: If there is more than one lane of travel in your direction, you are not restricted from the left lane unless the municipality or DOT specifically posts signs stating as such.

Exactly.

That's the law that the 75th Legislature modified that went into effect Sept. 1, 1997

You asked for the law. The exact text of the actual law that was passed is here...http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/Search/D ... ightType=1

I already mentioned that as well, but not all roads are posted with that sign (I've never seen one in Houston or the surrounding areas), and there is nowhere else in the transportation code, that I have found, that restricts a person from driving in the left lane of a multi-lane road where traffic is moving the same direction.

bigred90gt wrote:I already mentioned that as well, but not all roads are posted with that sign (I've never seen one in Houston or the surrounding areas), and there is nowhere else in the transportation code, that I have found, that restricts a person from driving in the left lane of a multi-lane road where traffic is moving the same direction.

Correct. It only applies and warrants a fine if it is posted as such. Kind of like the "no cellphones in school zone" if it is not posted with the fine and the amount of fine, the law doesn't apply.

The left-lane issue is a problem to enforce because so many roads and highways are now city streets. Left turns are common along any major highway in the developed areas, and some clear stretches are on the order of only a mile. If drivers are required to stay in the right lane until "just before" the turn, they may be forced into a move that will create a hazard for others.

I won't even mention those who decide that people in the left lane are there only to prevent their driving at 20mph over the limit -- oh, wait, I just mentioned them....

Back on original topic: ...

Thankful with each sunrise.

I'm a fairly well-traveled man in this country. I've never been to NJ. Never plan to. Now, I doubt I ever will. I have a garden already.

Most definitely, just read a thread on another forum where Inter Ordnance AK-47's were "subject to confiscation" in Jersey. I'm with you I thank God every day I live in the great state of Texas

"subject to confiscation" sounds pretty close to infringing on the right to keep and bear arms ... unless they replaced it with something of equal value and capacity for free.