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Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:32 am
by RPB
No, but a full background check on buying gasoline would stop them from getting to their crime scenes where they'd rob pillage and plunder. (Assuming they didn't know how to siphon gas illegally, but then, they be breaking the law)
Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:38 am
by Lodge2004
lrb111 wrote:I see plenty wrong with it. Some folks buy ammo by the case and shoot it hundreds of rounds at a time. Just cause it's fun. We don't need to go on a terrorist watch list because of it.
Exactly. Someone who participates in IDPA or other action sports can easily go through several hundred rounds per month. If you shoot one or more matches each week, you will consume 500+ rds per month. In Houston there are IDPA type matches almost 7 days per week somewhere in the metro area. Many people hit several per week.
Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:05 am
by OldCannon
Stupid wrote:USA1 wrote:Stupid wrote: Is there any problem with this idea?
Yes. It would be yet another infringement on on my rights and privacy.
The idea is to prevent bad guys from buying ammo.
I can't figure out if you're trolling or not, so I'll play along (just kidding, actually, I've seen your other posts -- you're not a troll, so I'm taking your question seriously)
NCIS on gun purchases really hasn't "flushed out" the bad guys when it comes to buying guns, because bad guys don't buy new guns - they have other people do it, or they buy from private sellers who don't know they're bad guys. Bad guys are bad, not stupid.
f I was a bad guy, and there was an NCIS check, and I REALLY wanted ammo, I guess I'd just reload my own. Are you suggesting NCIS checks for bullets, casings, primers, or propellant too?
And seriously, what twisted, Pelosian logic (oh, I just made that up, that's a nice term

) would justify something so rare as to having an actual incident where a bad guy can't get ammo? Should we also say that swimming pools must remain empty until they're in use, and then immediately drained to prevent the thousand of accidental drownings each year?
Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:10 am
by Commander Cody
NO!
Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:22 am
by RPBrown
In a word NO!!!!!!
Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:29 am
by Weg
Having ammo background checks would just create a new black market, kinda like the deal with cigs. and drugs right now. It would also rapidly lead to ammo registration, at least in many states. The usual question I get when I am against such things is : If your a good guy what do you have to hide? My answer is EVERYTHING. I want to hide as much of my personal life from others as possible, because it is none of the Governments ( or other peoples) business if we are talking about constitutional rights.If the Government wants to regulate guns and ammo, then they need to amend the constitution and remove the second amendment, that is the constitutional way to do it, and very difficult by design. We already have too much infringement on our rights , we don't need anymore.
Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:44 am
by lrb111
Lodge2004 wrote:lrb111 wrote:I see plenty wrong with it. Some folks buy ammo by the case and shoot it hundreds of rounds at a time. Just cause it's fun. We don't need to go on a terrorist watch list because of it.
Exactly. Someone who participates in IDPA or other action sports can easily go through several hundred rounds per month. If you shoot one or more matches each week, you will consume 500+ rds per month. In Houston there are IDPA type matches almost 7 days per week somewhere in the metro area. Many people hit several per week.
I go through a brick of .22 a week for Bullseye practice, not to mention the .45. If I were a better shot maybe I could cut back.

Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:49 am
by Salty1
I have seen what I consider pretty dumb questions on various forums, this one takes the cake. I know the old saying "there is no such thing as a stupid question" this saying was just proven to be wrong...........
Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:50 am
by Excaliber
lkd wrote:Stupid wrote:USA1 wrote:Stupid wrote: Is there any problem with this idea?
Yes. It would be yet another infringement on on my rights and privacy.
The idea is to prevent bad guys from buying ammo.
I can't figure out if you're trolling or not, so I'll play along (just kidding, actually, I've seen your other posts -- you're not a troll, so I'm taking your question seriously)
NCIS on gun purchases really hasn't "flushed out" the bad guys when it comes to buying guns, because bad guys don't buy new guns - they have other people do it, or they buy from private sellers who don't know they're bad guys. Bad guys are bad, not stupid.
f I was a bad guy, and there was an NCIS check, and I REALLY wanted ammo, I guess I'd just reload my own. Are you suggesting NCIS checks for bullets, casings, primers, or propellant too?
And seriously, what twisted, Pelosian logic (oh, I just made that up, that's a nice term

) would justify something so rare as to having an actual incident where a bad guy can't get ammo? Should we also say that swimming pools must remain empty until they're in use, and then immediately drained to prevent the thousand of accidental drownings each year?
You might also consider the fact that the folks who lie about their criminal histories on Form 4473 and get caught on the background check are almost never investigated or prosecuted, even though they've committed a federal felony. A similar system for ammo would be no different.
Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:13 pm
by Stupid
Excaliber wrote:
You might also consider the fact that the folks who lie about their criminal histories on Form 4473 and get caught on the background check are almost never investigated or prosecuted, even though they've committed a federal felony. A similar system for ammo would be no different.
Are you serious on this?
Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:15 pm
by Jumping Frog
Another aspect to remember is that huge volumes of ammo are sold via mail order and over the internet.
That would get shut down by an NICS requirement.
For those of you would might think even for a millisecond, "when I don't buy over the internet", the competition that arises from a national market in ammunition is why your local gun store needs to remain competitive.
Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:27 pm
by lrb111
Jumping Frog wrote:Another aspect to remember is that huge volumes of ammo are sold via mail order and over the internet.
That would get shut down by an NICS requirement.
For those of you would might think even for a millisecond, "when I don't buy over the internet", the competition that arises from a national market in ammunition is why your local gun store needs to remain competitive.
Just on this forum we have folks buying upwards of 5000 bullets at a time for reloading. I think my last combined order of 9mm, 38, and .45 was around 8000. We have folks ordering over twice that amount and twice as often.
Re: Would anybody support a NCIC check for buying ammo?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:26 pm
by Texas Dan Mosby
No.
Seems to be about as beneficial as requiring a driving record check prior to purchasing fuel...