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PappaGun wrote:

Griffen wrote:Don't forget to remind him to also purchase some type of security device to prevent a child from accessing his new gun. He probably hasn't thought about all the ancillary equipment to properly store his equipment.

Don't all new guns come with a cable lock now?

a $50 small safe is a good start.

I witnessed the same behaviour at a Houston public range a few years back. Showed the gentleman the error of his ways, gave him a quick gun safety 101 (including pointing to the "accidental discharge" bullet holes in the range cover), then left after he swept me.

At least he didnt load it with 9mm like a man in my chl class did. It actually shot a few rounds, just had continous FTRB.

rm9792 wrote:At least he didnt load it with 9mm like a man in my chl class did. It actually shot a few rounds, just had continous FTRB.

Failure To Restock the Bluebell?

Hmmmmm...Blue Bell......oh, sorry, FTRB =Failure to Return to Battery. Usually requires a gentle to firm tap on the rear of the slide.
FTF = Failure to Feed
FTE = Failure to Eject
FTB1911 = Failure to Buy 1911

rm9792 wrote:Hmmmmm...Blue Bell......oh, sorry, FTRB =Failure to Return to Battery. Usually requires a gentle to firm tap on the rear of the slide.
FTF = Failure to Feed
FTE = Failure to Eject
FTB1911 = Failure to Buy 1911

That's what I thought it meant. I'm just unsure how trying to fit a 9mm object into a 10mm hole would cause it to not go into battery. I just something just gets in there crossways when the dimensions don't match what you're expecting.

Simple, the 9mm cartridge lacks the energy needed to cycle the slide completely when inside a 10mm hole so the slide lacks the inertia to go far enough back. The causes the spring to be compressed less which results in a lower forward momentum for the slide when it goes forward. As a result the slide lacks the energy needed to strip a round from the magazine completely. At this point you have a FTRB.

There are a lot of forces in play when a SA is loading. A 9mm wont have the same lengths and bullet angles as a 10mm so it wont fit in the ejector correctly or hit the ramps at the right angle.

I believe that the 10mm reference was to point out the size difference, the gun in question I believe was a .40S&W (some call it "10mm short") which has a comparable OAL to a 9mm. The extractor has been known to hold the round in place but its not guaranteed to do so as both cartridges headspace on the mouth of the case and the 9mm is smaller in diameter.

Chambering the wrong cartridge is a mistake many new shooters and even some more experienced ones make.

G.A. Heath wrote:I believe that the 10mm reference was to point out the size difference, the gun in question I believe was a .40S&W (some call it "10mm short")

& Wimpy... "10mm Short & Wimpy"

Yeah, that's what the 10mm reference was for. The comparison is more obvious when both measurements are in the same unit.

He could have done a lot worse than a G23. Glad he realized that he needed some instruction. How'd the shooting go, and how'd he handle the .40? If he can't carry 24/7, I would also recommend a small safe so that the Glock can't be stolen in a smash/grab type of burglary. He also may want to reinforce his front door above and beyond what the apartment complex has in place. 3" heavy wood screws, etc.