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I don't believe this happened. This was a mighty and invincible Glock! They never break. They never jam. They run even when they've been immersed in frozen mud and stored in a rotting camel's corpse. You can throw them out of airplanes and shoot them with a .50 BMG and it won't even scratch the finish. No, this was a cheap knockoff like those fake Rolex watches.... ...or like a 1911.

A real Glock would have never broken.

I'm sorry. Was that a little over the top?

The Annoyed Man wrote:I don't believe this happened. This was a mighty and invincible Glock! They never break. They never jam. They run even when they've been immersed in frozen mud and stored in a rotting camel's corpse. You can throw them out of airplanes and shoot them with a .50 BMG and it won't even scratch the finish. No, this was a cheap knockoff like those fake Rolex watches.... ...or like a 1911.

A real Glock would have never broken.

I'm sorry. Was that a little over the top?

Now I am the "Annoyed Man"!

No, if it was a 1911, the rail never would have broken. However, it would have been back to the factory or gunsmith several times to "tweak the extractor," replace the slide stop, replace the grip safety with a beavertail to stop it from biting you, re-stake or reglue the plunger tube, and polish the feedramp to feed hollowpoints. But never for a broken rail. I love my Glocks and 1911's, but everything breaks at some point.

G26ster wrote:No, if it was a 1911, the rail never would have broken. However, it would have been back to the factory or gunsmith several times to "tweak the extractor," replace the slide stop, replace the grip safety with a beavertail to stop it from biting you, re-stake or reglue the plunger tube, and polish the feedramp to feed hollowpoints. But never for a broken rail. I love my Glocks and 1911's, but everything breaks at some point.

Yup! But you gotta admit it was funny.

TAM, at least we have the S&W M&P45 to agree upon now.

One shot from that bad boy and the criminal will explode like the Vietnamese officer that Rambo shoots with the HE arrow in "First Blood: Part II"

With my S&W M&P45 I can shoot the wings off a gnat at 500 yards ... one handed ... and I'm not even Chuck Norris

With my S&W M&P45, I plan to put those 1911 guys in their place in IDPA CDP division this year ...

AndyC wrote:

austinrealtor wrote:With my S&W M&P45 I can shoot the wings off a gnat at 500 yards ... one handed ... and I'm not even Chuck Norris

The trick is to specify which gnat

The one on the left...

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jmra wrote:Shipped the g23 by fedex today. $63.00! At first they said I had to be a dealer to ship it. Once I convinced them that it was ok since I was shipping it to glock, they insisted it had to be shipped priority overnite. Now I understand the overnite thing but does it really have to be there by 10:30?
Just another scheme to take another few bucks.

If you don't mind violating FedEx or UPS policies, there is nothing in federal law that requires you to declare a firearm to a common carrier if you are shipping to an FFL.

I don't know about that.

Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

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18 USC §922(e) is the relevant section here--the other ones cited deal with transfers between unlicensed persons and with manufacturers shipping guns back to the customer after repair.

18 USC §922 Unlawful Acts
(e) It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce, to persons other than licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped; except that any passenger who owns or legally possesses a firearm or ammunition being transported aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in interstate or foreign commerce may deliver said firearm or ammunition into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor or operator of such common or contract carrier for the duration of the trip without violating any of the provisions of this chapter. No common or contract carrier shall require or cause any label, tag, or other written notice to be placed on the outside of any package, luggage, or other container that such package, luggage, or other container contains a firearm.

Got the glock back today. Not bad, 2 week turn around. They put a new frame on it. Only thing that is a little weird now is I have different SN's on the frame and the slide/barrel. No biggie.

The only one that matters is the one on the frame. That's what to record if you ever dispose of it. Well, I'd keep track of both, just because.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I don't believe this happened. This was a mighty and invincible Glock! They never break. They never jam. They run even when they've been immersed in frozen mud and stored in a rotting camel's corpse. You can throw them out of airplanes and shoot them with a .50 BMG and it won't even scratch the finish. No, this was a cheap knockoff like those fake Rolex watches.... ...or like a 1911.

A real Glock would have never broken.

I'm sorry. Was that a little over the top?

Very soon we can test that theory...Anyone want to pony up a sacrificial Glock for a .50 BMG demonstration???

There was a recall/frame upgrade on certain "E" series G23s. If yours fell into the recalled group then Glock should have paid for the shipping in my opinion. With that said, there are different reports (posted on the Glock forum) concerning the "frame upgrade". Some said that Glock did pay shipping both ways and others said Glock didn't pay shipping. Supposedly they would replace the frame and use the same serial number and put a "1" in front of it. I see that you got yours back and it had a new serial. I don't know all the details but I do know that if you call Glock they can tell you if yours fell within the serial number that needed the frame upgrade. Maybe you already did that but if it was on the recall/upgrade list I'd perhaps ask them to reimburse you for shipping. Just a thought.

Yes it was an E series, no they would not pay shipping both ways. One thing that I did notice - it was shipped back to me second day instead of overnite. If fedex would have let me do that it would have been half the cost.
I can't complain too much, I got a great deal on the gun even with the cost of shipping to glock and now it is basically a new gun.

Glad to hear you are pleased with the overall outcome. That is what counts in the end.

jmra wrote:Shipped the g23 by fedex today. $63.00! At first they said I had to be a dealer to ship it. Once I convinced them that it was ok since I was shipping it to glock, they insisted it had to be shipped priority overnite. Now I understand the overnite thing but does it really have to be there by 10:30?
Just another scheme to take another few bucks.

You got ripped off... I have a FedEx account so I do it all on-line and they pick it up at my house. In 2010 I sent no less then 4 pistols to have work done and they all cost me under $20.00 US out of Texas. Its not over night, it has to be 2 day for pistols. You can set up an at home FedEx account on your CPU for free. Its nice around X-mass and peoples B-days, Oh and its nice for shipping firearms and ammo.