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Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:22 am
by hirundo82
MadMonkey wrote:
stevie_d_64 wrote:Not sure I dig the fact that they like to pilfer through your wallet
Whaaaaat? I've never heard that one...
If you're carrying what they consider to be too much money, they might call the police on you and accuse you of stealing from your spouse.

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:03 am
by Rebel
I'm late to the show, but just wanted to verify that the actual container holding the firearm is only to be opened by the owner, the TSA guys are never to have access to the keys/combo to those locks. So that means no TSA locks.

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:06 am
by RHenriksen
Rebel wrote:I'm late to the show, but just wanted to verify that the actual container holding the firearm is only to be opened by the owner, the TSA guys are never to have access to the keys/combo to those locks. So that means no TSA locks.
That's always been my understanding

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:15 pm
by slinco
My experience with the TSA gets them a big fat F on their report card.

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:18 pm
by kyreb
" Having the TSA web site guidance, a copy of the regulations and a copy of the airline policy for traveling with firearms on your person stored with your
carry on is greatly recommended. It has saved me several times now from unneeded hassle with ignorant airline and TSA employees."


Providing you get someone that is able and is willing to read the regs. I feel sure the people I dealt with would have told me to stuff the regs. They were adamant they knew all the rules and insisted I add TSA locks or I could take my gun case back to the house..... :waiting:

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:52 pm
by Rex B
Last paragraph of the linked story:

"TSA spokeswoman Ann Davis said the reason Parker was selected for in-depth screening was that her actions at the airport had aroused the suspicion of a behavior detection officer"

I find it troubling that there is a "Behavior detection officer". George Orwell would be proud

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:31 pm
by Dave2
Rex B wrote:Last paragraph of the linked story:

"TSA spokeswoman Ann Davis said the reason Parker was selected for in-depth screening was that her actions at the airport had aroused the suspicion of a behavior detection officer"

I find it troubling that there is a "Behavior detection officer". George Orwell would be proud
No, that's what we want! Then they only have to bother the people who are acting suspiciously. I get that they'll probably have to keep scanning bags in case somebody sneaks a bomb into somebody else's carry-on, but all the rest of it can go away if they can look at a crowd and say, "that guy, in the green shirt, he's the one acting like poo is about to go down."

Now, the TSA and I may disagree on what constitutes a "Behavior Detection Officer"...

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:12 pm
by Rex B
I guess a "Jihadist Detection Officer" is out of the question?
Perhaps a sign "Please present photo ID, boarding pass, and Koran"

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:04 pm
by Dave2
Rex B wrote:I guess a "Jihadist Detection Officer" is out of the question?
Only because they aren't the only ones we have to watch out for.

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:18 pm
by Rex B
Dave2 wrote:
Rex B wrote:I guess a "Jihadist Detection Officer" is out of the question?
Only because they aren't the only ones we have to watch out for.
Yep, 40-something blond housewives have taken down their fair share of airliners.

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:19 pm
by Dave2
hirundo82 wrote:
MadMonkey wrote:
stevie_d_64 wrote:Not sure I dig the fact that they like to pilfer through your wallet
Whaaaaat? I've never heard that one...
If you're carrying what they consider to be too much money, they might call the police on you and accuse you of stealing from your spouse.
Being po' and single, I don't have that particular problem. They still aren't going to look through my wallet, though.

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:24 pm
by E.Marquez
kyreb wrote:" Having the TSA web site guidance, a copy of the regulations and a copy of the airline policy for traveling with firearms on your person stored with your
carry on is greatly recommended. It has saved me several times now from unneeded hassle with ignorant airline and TSA employees."


Providing you get someone that is able and is willing to read the regs. I feel sure the people I dealt with would have told me to stuff the regs. They were adamant they knew all the rules and insisted I add TSA locks or I could take my gun case back to the house..... :waiting:
I admit it's a [possibility. But what i have found is, while they do not like it at all.. Out of the group (usually a LEO) one or more of the group will actually be interested in doing the right thing, it only takes one.
Add to that .. I am very willing to spend as much time as needed ON THE SPOT making folks understand right, and if that requires phone calls, video tape, media involvement and calls on the spot to congress critters so be it. It has never been needed. Someone has always looked at the documentation and talked sense ion to the others. :thumbs2:

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:34 pm
by gemini
Dave2 wrote:
hirundo82 wrote:
MadMonkey wrote:
stevie_d_64 wrote:Not sure I dig the fact that they like to pilfer through your wallet
Whaaaaat? I've never heard that one...
If you're carrying what they consider to be too much money, they might call the police on you and accuse you of stealing from your spouse.
Being po' and single, I don't have that particular problem. They still aren't going to look through my wallet, though.
Oh yes, they'll look through whatever the little twerps want to look through, and, you'll just stand there and take it like a "good" citizen.
California trip last Dec. At the SF airport I opted out of the scattered Xray. I was then made to stand in a small roped off area for about
10 minutes waiting on a TSA twerp to come run their little paws up and down my person. The TSA moron proceeded to thumb through
my money clip and my wallet / card holder. I think part of their routine is to make you so uncomfortable you decide to subject yourself
to a bit of extra radiation. However, in my case, it makes me really, really, really dislike TSA employees, the eletist legislators who
have decided they don't need to go through the same security measures they impose on the common subjects and the whole "for show"
security scam.
If you air travel, and you decide to protest or resist the TSA morons from looking through your wallet...... please post your entire experience.
I'm sure :biggrinjester: you'll be able to reason with them using common sense. I look forward to your future post :biggrinjester:

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:46 am
by shipwreck
I know there is a way to bring a gun on a flight, but I refuse to do it. I feel like it is too big of a gamble that someone will steal the thing, or it will be lost. If I want to go somewhere and bring a gun, I just drive...

Re: Traveling with gun...TSA experience this week

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:01 pm
by Rebel
shipwreck wrote:I know there is a way to bring a gun on a flight, but I refuse to do it. I feel like it is too big of a gamble that someone will steal the thing, or it will be lost. If I want to go somewhere and bring a gun, I just drive...

You mean, check a firearm in, right? It sounds like your talking about boarding a plane with a gun.