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Re: First time carrying
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:00 am
by RPB
The two times I had guns on me during robberies (in an electronics store and in a hardware store) and the time I was held at knifepoint (college campus parking lot)
I wasn't really expecting it beforehand.
I carry always, because criminals don't call ahead to make reservations...
Buy longer shirts.
Duluth Trading Co
JC Penneys Big and TALL shop are good places to start.
Re: First time carrying
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:00 pm
by nyj
RoyGBiv wrote:nyj wrote:
I saw very few gun buster signs, and absolutely no legal signs, which was pretty cool.
I assume you know that AZ signs are different from TX signs.. ?
http://www.azdps.gov/Links/ARS/?l=4/00229.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
In AZ it's illegal to carry past this sign...
I always looked for a sign that had any type of legal lettering on it. Never saw one. Went to a couple of museums and a zoo and the only signs they had were simple "No weapons allowed."
Re: First time carrying
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:07 pm
by ScottDLS
RoyGBiv wrote:nyj wrote:
I saw very few gun buster signs, and absolutely no legal signs, which was pretty cool.
I assume you know that AZ signs are different from TX signs.. ?
http://www.azdps.gov/Links/ARS/?l=4/00229.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
In AZ it's illegal to carry past this sign...
Only if the premises posted with that sign sells alcohol.
Re: First time carrying
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:39 pm
by zero4o3
RPB wrote:The two times I had guns on me during robberies (in an electronics store and in a hardware store) and the time I was held at knifepoint (college campus parking lot)
I wasn't really expecting it beforehand.
I carry always, because criminals don't call ahead to make reservations...
Buy longer shirts.
Duluth Trading Co
JC Penneys Big and TALL shop are good places to start.
it sounds like trouble follows you
Re: First time carrying
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:10 pm
by gringogigante
wgoforth wrote:Glad you have a CHL, but you might want to rethink the only carry when you feel the need scenerio. I carry everywhere, including when I'm preaching in the pulpit, and at home till I go to bed...then it lays on the nightstand next to me. Someone has said "Carry 24/7 or be right 100% of the time." Things can happen at the unlikliest of places and times...AND, if you start a habbit of carry here but not there...if you do need it, you will either forget you have it, or need it and think you do, go to reach and you don't. If the gun size is the problem, find one you can carry more often. Just a suggestion from the FWIW dept!
Wayne
Amen, brother.
I tell all my students, "Violence is random, and you are not psychic." So, considering it is impossible to predict when violence occurs (so that we can simply avoid the situation), we must carry all the time. Otherwise, you're just playing the Violence Lottery.
Re: First time carrying
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:13 pm
by RPB
zero4o3 wrote:RPB wrote:The two times I had guns on me during robberies (in an electronics store and in a hardware store) and the time I was held at knifepoint (college campus parking lot)
I wasn't really expecting it beforehand.
I carry always, because criminals don't call ahead to make reservations...
Buy longer shirts.
Duluth Trading Co
JC Penneys Big and TALL shop are good places to start.
it sounds like trouble follows you
I've been told that.
Being "obviously" physically handicapped, looking like an "easy target" doesn't help... but actually two of those 3 times were not because of appearance. Two were store robberies, one was about appearance, the guy pulled a knife because he was scared of me when I approached to ask what time it was. I looked "biker-ish" at the time and he was scared.
Re: First time carrying
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:34 pm
by 5thGenTexan
To the OP I frequently carry a 3" SP101 OWB and occasionally IWB. It conceals well and the extra heft over the 2" J-frames means full house magnum loads are very tolerable after I replaced the Ruger Grips with some Hogues. If I'm doing IWB I much prefer my Kahr CW40. I'm not real hot on mechanical saftey's I figure the All Knowing One gave me the ultimate saftey between my ears. Buy yourself some longer tailed shirts and have fun but be safe.
Re: First time carrying
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:01 pm
by sjfcontrol
RoyGBiv wrote:The affirmative defense only applies to violations on "licensed premises of an on-sale retailer"...
If you carry past that sign anywhere else, the non-res clause doesn't apply.
What the heck is an on-sale retailer?
Re: First time carrying
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:03 pm
by The Annoyed Man
nyj wrote:Got my CHL a couple of weeks ago, just in time for my road trip to Arizona to visit family for a week. Holstered up with my crossbreed type holster, threw in my XD40sc, and wore a shirt that I thought was sufficient. During the stops I found that the shirt I was wearing was a bit too short, and had to constantly pull it over the gun.
We did something every day of the week while I was there, and both my BIL and I were carrying. I was a bit uncomfortable for the first couple of days but after that, it became like second nature. I did find that my clothing style is really insufficient for the gun I carry. I wear shirts that fit, as in I'm 6'1 and wear medium shirts that go just over my belt. The holster did a good job of concealing, and no one in my gun-toting family knew I was carrying, but any type of kneeling or bending left me keeping my hand pulling on my shirt to make sure it stays down.
I saw very few gun buster signs, and absolutely no legal signs, which was pretty cool.
All in all, I'm glad I carried in AZ...Tucson was a little on the sketchy side, to say the least. But being back home, I've only carried once. I find myself only desiring to carry when I'm out with family/friends. Otherwise, I really have no desire to dress around my gun. I love the XD a lot, but it is a little on the heavy side, and just a bit on the bulky side in width. Who knows, I may just end up getting a nice wheelgun. My BIL's 3" SP101 concealed very well.
Arizona has constitutional carry. Why did you worry so much about someone seeing your gun?
Re: First time carrying
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:02 pm
by ScottDLS
RoyGBiv wrote:The affirmative defense only applies to violations on "licensed premises of an on-sale retailer"...
If you carry past that sign anywhere else, the non-res clause doesn't apply.
The CRIME only applies to the "licensed premises of an on-sale retailer", so anywhere else the affirmative defense is unnecessary.
One of the few reasons to have a permit in AZ (or reciprocally recognized one) is to be able to carry in a "licensed" premises, assuming they don't have a sign posted. Other places in AZ do not require a permit to carry open or concealed.
Re: First time carrying
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:35 pm
by C-dub
zero4o3 wrote:RPB wrote:The two times I had guns on me during robberies (in an electronics store and in a hardware store) and the time I was held at knifepoint (college campus parking lot)
I wasn't really expecting it beforehand.
I carry always, because criminals don't call ahead to make reservations...
Buy longer shirts.
Duluth Trading Co
JC Penneys Big and TALL shop are good places to start.
it sounds like trouble follows you
A friend of mine, a DPD Sergeant, got this reputation and when he first became a Sergeant several other guys under him would follow him around on patrol. When he asked them why, they said that trouble just seemed to follow him and they wanted to be there when it did.