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What things?OldCurlyWolf wrote:Unloaded makes things legal that are illegal when loaded.
I think OldCurlyWolf needs to show the law to back this up. Other states like California prohibit carrying loaded handguns but 46.02 doesn't care if the handgun is unloaded or loaded.Bullwhip wrote:What things?OldCurlyWolf wrote:Unloaded makes things legal that are illegal when loaded.
Based on what exception from 46.02?TxRVer wrote:If he's taking it to a gunsmith, wouldn't it be legal to carry open or concealed?
If you were going to a gun shop you could carry it legally either open or concealed. That's been legal forever. Long before CHL. Does it make a difference if the gunsmith is in an office building?boba wrote:Based on what exception from 46.02?TxRVer wrote:If he's taking it to a gunsmith, wouldn't it be legal to carry open or concealed?
In a case is probably better than in your hand. A locked case is even better and I think that isn't considered "on or about his person" AFAICT.TxRVer wrote:I'm just asking. How do you take a gun to a gunsmith legally if you can't carry it openly or concealed?boba wrote:Based on what exception from 46.02?TxRVer wrote:If he's taking it to a gunsmith, wouldn't it be legal to carry open or concealed?
I have to agree it's better to have it in a case where no one sees it. My question though, was about legality. Locked in a case is still "on or about his person". Just not visible to the public so no one gets upset.boba wrote:In a case is probably better than in your hand. A locked case is even better and I think that isn't considered "on or about his person" AFAICT.TxRVer wrote:I'm just asking. How do you take a gun to a gunsmith legally if you can't carry it openly or concealed?boba wrote:Based on what exception from 46.02?TxRVer wrote:If he's taking it to a gunsmith, wouldn't it be legal to carry open or concealed?
And PC 1.07 (42) saysboba wrote:The terms "on or about" are usually said to mean close by, convenient, quickly and easily available, so a person could grab the weapon quickly without significantly changing their position.
So, what is an ordinary and prudent person who is either a CHL or an LEO supposed to think when he or she sees an unexpectedly armed man prowling the halls of a corporation with an openly carried gun in his hand? I know what my fears would be. I'm not saying I would have shot him, but I would definitely have been taking some kind of action, evasive or otherwise. I would suddenly have pressing business elsewhere. So would most reasonable people.(42) "Reasonable belief" means a belief that would be held by an ordinary and prudent man in the same circumstances as the actor.
The Annoyed Man wrote:And PC 1.07 (42) saysboba wrote:The terms "on or about" are usually said to mean close by, convenient, quickly and easily available, so a person could grab the weapon quickly without significantly changing their position.So, what is an ordinary and prudent person who is either a CHL or an LEO supposed to think when he or she sees an unexpectedly armed man prowling the halls of a corporation with an openly carried gun in his hand? I know what my fears would be. I'm not saying I would have shot him, but I would definitely have been taking some kind of action, evasive or otherwise. I would suddenly have pressing business elsewhere. So would most reasonable people.(42) "Reasonable belief" means a belief that would be held by an ordinary and prudent man in the same circumstances as the actor.
It seems highly likely to me that an LEO would have drawn down on the guy and gotten control over the potential threat, before make a determination of the guy's intentions. It would have been the reasonable thing to do.
What that idiot did was just that: idiotic, and irresponsible; and within the context of PC 1.07 (42), it was UNreasonable. In that particular environment, the gun should have been cased. Arguments to the contrary reject objective reality and substitute their own.
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