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CHL Instructors should be strict on their students while the student is trying to pass the class. One student helping out another shouldn't be a problem.

TDDude wrote:My friendly advice would be that I will be glad to teach them the basics (for a fee) and that they can retest during the normal test time for the next class but today, they will not get the CHL100 signed by me.

You might want to work on the delivery of your friendly advice. Insert an "unfortunately" or something like that.

texanron wrote:CHL Instructors should be strict on their students while the student is trying to pass the class. One student helping out another shouldn't be a problem.

TDDude wrote:My friendly advice would be that I will be glad to teach them the basics (for a fee) and that they can retest during the normal test time for the next class but today, they will not get the CHL100 signed by me.

You might want to work on the delivery of your friendly advice. Insert an "unfortunately" or something like that.

I'm the Velvet covered Brick baby!! I'm all over them thare "peoples skills"........

Maybe when people sign up for the CHL class the instructor should ask the students about their experience with handguns and offer a pre-CHL class to prospective students who have little or no experience.

WildBill wrote:Maybe when people sign up for the CHL class the instructor should ask the students about their experience with handguns and offer a pre-CHL class to prospective students who have little or no experience.

Until it's required, most folks will opt to take the lower cost way out.
A TX CHL is already too expensive.

I'm a bit on the fence about this issue...

In my TX class, two ladies were literally shaking waiting in the lobby of the shooting range to take their proficiency test. Both passed, although one did get "bit" wrapping her off-hand thumb over the top of her firing hand shooting a SA. Should the public feel safer with such a person carrying a handgun? Is public safety the point? or is it personal safety? [Personal, of course]...

In my NC class, we had to draw and fire. While I know there are range safety issues with this, isn't this part of the required "proficiency"?....

I'll err on the side of permissiveness... remember, we're talking about folks who have no (significant) criminal history and want to carry for their own protection. However, if I'm ever in a use-of-force situation in a public place, you can bet I'll be looking over my shoulder for inept do-gooders with shaky hands.

RoyGBiv wrote:

WildBill wrote:Maybe when people sign up for the CHL class the instructor should ask the students about their experience with handguns and offer a pre-CHL class to prospective students who have little or no experience.

Until it's required, most folks will opt to take the lower cost way out.
A TX CHL is already too expensive.

I'm a bit on the fence about this issue...

I completely agree. I am not suggested the course as a requirement. I am sure that many students would not want the extra class and think that it's just another hurdle to jump over. My post was offered as an alternative to having students take a class and failing the shooting portion of the test and having to retake it.

WildBill wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

WildBill wrote:Maybe when people sign up for the CHL class the instructor should ask the students about their experience with handguns and offer a pre-CHL class to prospective students who have little or no experience.

Until it's required, most folks will opt to take the lower cost way out.
A TX CHL is already too expensive.

I'm a bit on the fence about this issue...

I completely agree. I am not suggested the course as a requirement. I am sure that many students would not want the extra class and think that it's just another hurdle to jump over. My post was offered as an alternative to having students take a class and failing the shooting portion of the test and having to retake it.

No argument on that from me.... It's really a shame that folks who clearly are not confident shooting under the simple, controlled pressure of a proficiency test are taking the CHL class as their starting point. It's a disservice to themselves not to have more experience, skill and confidence before they plan to carry...