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Re: Scarborough Faire

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:38 pm
by tacticool
I wonder how many people are arrested for carrying illegal knives on 51% premises at Scarborough Faire.

Re: Scarborough Faire

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:20 pm
by hirundo82
tacticool wrote:I wonder how many people are arrested for carrying illegal knives on 51% premises at Scarborough Faire.
There's no prohibition on illegal knives on 51% premises beyond those anywhere else--it's a §46.02 restriction, while §46.035 (which includes the 51% restriction) applies only to carry of handguns by CHL holders.

There is a sentence enhancement if the §46.02 violation takes place on TABC-licensed premises (3rd degree felony rather than Class A misdemeanor), but performers at the Ren Fair type places are carrying swords and such under a performance exception:
Sec. 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY. (e) The provisions of Section 46.02 prohibiting the carrying of an illegal knife do not apply to an individual carrying a bowie knife or a sword used in a historical demonstration or in a ceremony in which the knife or sword is significant to the performance of the ceremony.

Re: Scarborough Faire

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:23 pm
by tacticool
hirundo82 wrote:There is a sentence enhancement if the §46.02 violation takes place on TABC-licensed premises (3rd degree felony rather than Class A misdemeanor), but performers at the Ren Fair type places are carrying swords and such under a performance exception:
I was thinking about the customers but that's a good catch that it's a felony upgrade even if less than 51% is alcohol sales if they're carrying a mace, sword, spear, dagger, etc.

Re: Scarborough Faire

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:40 pm
by Keith B
Most Renascence Festivals require anyone coming in period attire to peace-tie or peace bond their swords unless they are one of the officially authorized performers at the festival. Basically, this is taking a piece of cloth, ribbon or cord and securing the sword in the sheath so you or someone else can't pull it out inadvertently or on purpose without untying it. Similar to zip-tying your pistol at the gun show.

Re: Scarborough Faire

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:33 pm
by hirundo82
Keith B wrote:Most Renascence Festivals require anyone coming in period attire to peace-tie or peace bond their swords unless they are one of the officially authorized performers at the festival. Basically, this is taking a piece of cloth, ribbon or cord and securing the sword in the sheath so you or someone else can't pull it out inadvertently or on purpose without untying it. Similar to zip-tying your pistol at the gun show.
Yeah, but that isn't a defense to UCW any more than carrying an unloaded gun is. The customers are probably relying on the historical demonstration exception I cited earlier as well.

Re: Scarborough Faire

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 12:20 am
by Bullwhip
46.15(e) The provisions of Section 46.02 prohibiting the carrying of an illegal knife do not apply to an individual carrying a bowie knife or a sword used in a historical demonstration or in a ceremony in which the knife or sword is significant to the performance of the ceremony.

I don't know what a ren fair is if it's not a "historical demonstration".

Re: Scarborough Faire

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:05 am
by Keith B
hirundo82 wrote:
Keith B wrote:Most Renascence Festivals require anyone coming in period attire to peace-tie or peace bond their swords unless they are one of the officially authorized performers at the festival. Basically, this is taking a piece of cloth, ribbon or cord and securing the sword in the sheath so you or someone else can't pull it out inadvertently or on purpose without untying it. Similar to zip-tying your pistol at the gun show.
Yeah, but that isn't a defense to UCW any more than carrying an unloaded gun is. The customers are probably relying on the historical demonstration exception I cited earlier as well.
I never said it was illegal. Not illegal to carry at a gun show (without a 30.06, that is.) It is perfectly legal under the historical reenactment statute, just as a civil war reenactment would allow you to carry a sword or saber. I was just making the statement they don't want folks taking out there swords, knives, etc out of the sheath unless you are one of the performers, so they want them tied in the sheath.

Re: Scarborough Faire

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:17 pm
by DoubleJ
Keith B wrote:And, if you go to the link and click on Food and Kitchens, the slide show that plays has a photo of my ugly mug tipping my hat. We were at a King's Feast celebration a few years ago and they got that shot.
I totally recognize you in that pic! that's hilarious! :tiphat:
The turkey legs they have at the Faire are rather tasty, as well!

Re: Scarborough Faire

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:31 pm
by Keith B
DoubleJ wrote:
Keith B wrote:And, if you go to the link and click on Food and Kitchens, the slide show that plays has a photo of my ugly mug tipping my hat. We were at a King's Feast celebration a few years ago and they got that shot.
I totally recognize you in that pic! that's hilarious! :tiphat:
The turkey legs they have at the Faire are rather tasty, as well!
Yea, definitely good eatin'!!! They only had that feast deal for a couple of weekends then decided to drop it. We hit the first one and gave them good feedback, but I guess they didn't get as good a results from it as expected. It was actually a really good deal. It was a package with a entry to the Faire, and included a full meal with a turkey leg, corn, some other veggies, rolls, a drink, dessert and a cigar for the guys and a flower for the ladies after dinner. Ladies could have a cigar if they preferred it over flowers. LOL It also included many of the regular performers doing their routines during and after the meal. And, the King and Queen had a ceremony for the kids where they would make them royal subjects of the court. The price was really good, considering it cost no more than a regular entry ticket and a couple of food items normal price, so you got a lot more for your money, plus you got a more up-close and personal show from the performers.

I don't really remember what I was doing in that picture, but just acting goofy (normal for me. LOL) I was really surprised to see it on the website and in their big souvenir book and program for the Faire. I still haven't gotten my royalties from his Royal Highness though. A couple of season passes would have been acceptable. :totap:

:lol:

Anyway, it is a fun family thing to go down there. Need to get back down there before the end of May with my family. :thumbs2:

Re: Scarborough Faire

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:43 pm
by WildBill
DoubleJ wrote:
Keith B wrote:And, if you go to the link and click on Food and Kitchens, the slide show that plays has a photo of my ugly mug tipping my hat. We were at a King's Feast celebration a few years ago and they got that shot.
I totally recognize you in that pic! that's hilarious! :tiphat:
The turkey legs they have at the Faire are rather tasty, as well!
I scrolled through the pictures to see Keith. :thumbs2:
Then I went back to see the Turkey Leg. :drool:
I have gone to a couple of Faires just for the Turkey Legs. :thumbs2:
In fact, one year I ODed on Turkey Legs. :nono: