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Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:41 am
by jimlongley
ScottDLS wrote:There's hundreds of respectable civil engineers that have proved there's no way burning fuel/plane crash could have brought the buildings down.
And I'll bet not one of them would be his PE on it.
I know of a variety of (intelligent) people who can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that helicopters and bumblebees cannot fly.
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:45 am
by Purplehood
RoyGBiv wrote:Another distraction from the fact that this guy is an un-American Socialist.
Where is anyone on the GOP side that's prepared to step up and box it out on the issues.?
He's ENTIRELY defeatable on the issues. MAKE the issues THE issue.
If Clinton "I did not have sexual relations" wasn't successfully impeached, BHO won't be either.
He was impeached. He was not convicted. Impeachment is the act of bringing charges against the President, not convicting him of them.
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:52 am
by RoyGBiv
Purplehood wrote:RoyGBiv wrote:Another distraction from the fact that this guy is an un-American Socialist.
Where is anyone on the GOP side that's prepared to step up and box it out on the issues.?
He's ENTIRELY defeatable on the issues. MAKE the issues THE issue.
If Clinton "I did not have sexual relations" wasn't successfully impeached, BHO won't be either.
He was impeached. He was not convicted. Impeachment is the act of bringing charges against the President, not convicting him of them.
OK.ok.. I was not exactly correct in my lingo... but you got my point yes?
Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction, but was not convicted.
IMO, conviction in that case would equal "successfully".
Y'all sure do enjoy hair splitting..
Similarly, BHO may be charged with something stemming from fraudulent/records-manipulation birth certificate (long form) or whatever, but will he be convicted? Of course not.... He'll claim that someone else did the deed and he had no knowledge. In the mean time, the real issues will be obscured by the media feeding frenzy.
The GOP needs to win on the issues. Guilty or not of anything, BHO needs to go down on his lack of Presidential merits.
YMMV
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:56 am
by SlickTX
Impeachment/conviction/removal would present some interesting results.
President Joe Biden
Vice President John Boehner
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:12 am
by sjfcontrol
Biden is a buffoon, and I would think it unlikely he could accomplish much, especially with a GOP held house.
Obama is many things, but buffoonish is not one of them. He's just flat dangerous. Dangerous for our economy, and dangerous for our country.
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:31 am
by VMI77
Obama isn't the problem, he's a symptom of the problem. Our real problem is the people who support him. Check out this Gallup poll:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/147881/Ameri ... ealth.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
About half of the people in this country are collectivists and want to "equalize economic
outcomes." So half the country isn't satisfied with the opportunity to succeed, they want the government to guarantee some measure of their success at the expense of someone else. 70% of the democrats surveyed are for government redistribution of wealth. Even more disturbing is that 28% of republicans feel the same way.
The poll says the survey results haven't changed much in the past four years. While I'm all for replacing Obama, it ultimately isn't going to matter much if we can't reverse the collectivist tide --a difficult proposition since they control the schools and the media.
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:02 pm
by The Mad Moderate
SlickTX wrote:Impeachment/conviction/removal would present some interesting results.
President Joe Biden
Vice President John Boehner
Boehner would not become VP if this did happen againg a big if Biden would be able to select his own VP. I think you are thinking about the line of seccison which would only apply to Boeher if both Obama and Biden were removed from office.
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:04 pm
by SlickTX
loadedliberal wrote:SlickTX wrote:Impeachment/conviction/removal would present some interesting results.
President Joe Biden
Vice President John Boehner
Boehner would not become VP if this did happen againg a big if Biden would be able to select his own VP. I think you are thinking about the line of seccison which would only apply to Boeher if both Obama and Biden were removed from office.
So we could be stuck with a Biden/Pelosi ticket??
Long live Obama.
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:57 pm
by Kythas
RoyGBiv wrote:Similarly, BHO may be charged with something stemming from fraudulent/records-manipulation birth certificate (long form) or whatever, but will he be convicted? Of course not.... He'll claim that someone else did the deed and he had no knowledge. In the mean time, the real issues will be obscured by the media feeding frenzy.
The GOP needs to win on the issues. Guilty or not of anything, BHO needs to go down on his lack of Presidential merits.
YMMV
I'll point out here that Nixon didn't "do the deed" with the burglary at the Watergate Hotel, nor did he have any prior knowledge of it. He did, however, participate in a coverup of the crime.
Even if Obama had no knowledge of forging a birth certificate and inserting it into the official Hawaii records, by displaying said certificate on the White House web site and/or not denouncing it after its release would amount to conspiracy, just as Watergate was a conspiracy.
Am I enamored at the prospect of a President Biden? Absolutely not. I've always felt that Obama selected Biden as his VP to be a life insurance policy of sorts. However, I'm less enamored at having someone in the White House who, either by action or omission, commits or covers up something as serious as the falsification of official government records. We vilify Nixon for covering up a break-in of the Democrat headquarters by his party's operatives; I say covering up forged government documents inserted into official government records is worse.
That doesn't even begin to touch the question of why the birth certificate would need to be forged and inserted into the record books in the first place, if this allegation proves to be true.
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:47 pm
by pbwalker
Kythas wrote:...but I have just received word from a knowledgeable source that a very interesting allegation will break in the next few days on a major internet news service about a certain birth certificate having been allegedly inserted ("stripping in" was the actual term used) into the birth records at the Hawaii Department of Health. My source, whom I believe to be quite reliable and not given to spreading rumors, says names will be revealed.
Any update?
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:54 pm
by Fangs
I've been out of the loop due to moving... but I'm also wondering if there's an update.
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:08 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Fangs wrote:I've been out of the loop due to moving... but I'm also wondering if there's an update.
NECROMANCER!!! Where is my garlic and cross?

Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:10 pm
by The Mad Moderate
Fangs wrote:I've been out of the loop due to moving... but I'm also wondering if there's an update.
There is no update because there is no story, just more wishful thinking...
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:44 pm
by tbrown
The Annoyed Man wrote:Fangs wrote:I've been out of the loop due to moving... but I'm also wondering if there's an update.
NECROMANCER!!! Where is my garlic and cross?

Isn't there at least a 30 day grace period?
Re: Now I'm no birther....
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:50 pm
by Rex B
Here's an update: Still no birth certificate
But I did see something from Columbia College where he registered as an Indonesian student.