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So John Edwards was giving a pass by the media just like Gary Condit the prime difference between Republican and Democratic sex scandals is a republican or Democrat. Don't blame the media. I am so sick of this whining about how the media isn't fair to republicans, or that "If I was a Democrat this wouldn't happen". Have you ever seen fox news, they take bias to a whole new level (eg. the "Common" controversy) and a sex scandal is a sex scandal. I suppose you think the media gave Clinton a pass too.
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I'm not sure you know the difference between "hard news" and "commentary." BTW, how old were you during the Clinton scandal?loadedliberal wrote:So John Edwards was giving a pass by the media just like Gary Condit the prime difference between Republican and Democratic sex scandals is a republican or Democrat. Don't blame the media. I am so sick of this whining about how the media isn't fair to republicans, or that "If I was a Democrat this wouldn't happen". Have you ever seen fox news, they take bias to a whole new level (eg. the "Common" controversy) and a sex scandal is a sex scandal. I suppose you think the media gave Clinton a pass too.
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11-12 somewhere in that range however I have always had an interest in politics from a very young age, I actually remember Clintons first primary win as one of my earliest memories. Being born in '86 Thats about as far back as they go.G26ster wrote:I'm not sure you know the difference between "hard news" and "commentary." BTW, how old were you during the Clinton scandal?loadedliberal wrote:So John Edwards was giving a pass by the media just like Gary Condit the prime difference between Republican and Democratic sex scandals is a republican or Democrat. Don't blame the media. I am so sick of this whining about how the media isn't fair to republicans, or that "If I was a Democrat this wouldn't happen". Have you ever seen fox news, they take bias to a whole new level (eg. the "Common" controversy) and a sex scandal is a sex scandal. I suppose you think the media gave Clinton a pass too.
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I don't think the MSM (including fox) knows the difference between "hard news" and "commentary" anymore.
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The reason for my question (and thank you for answering) is that I believe it is "lost" on younger generations that there was a time that hard news reporting was not nearly as biased as it is today. "Commentary," regardless of which side it falls on, will always be biased. The problem with hard news today is that it IS biased, and is easily seen by those who lived through the era of "perceived" impartiality. I grew up a Democrat, in a Democratic household, and thought JFK was the greatest thing since Harry Truman. Over the years, through life experience, my political views changed. But I still remember "hard news" as "generally" fair to both sides. Today that is non-existent. In my day, unless you knew Walter Cronkite personally, you would never know he was a far left guy. Journalists like him, kept their personal views to themselves, and it did not show in their reporting for the vast majority of time.loadedliberal wrote:11-12 somewhere in that range however I have always had an interest in politics from a very young age, I actually remember Clintons first primary win as one of my earliest memories. Being born in '86 Thats about as far back as they go.G26ster wrote:I'm not sure you know the difference between "hard news" and "commentary." BTW, how old were you during the Clinton scandal?loadedliberal wrote:So John Edwards was giving a pass by the media just like Gary Condit the prime difference between Republican and Democratic sex scandals is a republican or Democrat. Don't blame the media. I am so sick of this whining about how the media isn't fair to republicans, or that "If I was a Democrat this wouldn't happen". Have you ever seen fox news, they take bias to a whole new level (eg. the "Common" controversy) and a sex scandal is a sex scandal. I suppose you think the media gave Clinton a pass too.
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Actually I agree on the "I could care less". If his constituents are unhappy, do not reelect him.i8godzilla wrote:As long as he is exercising his First Amendment rights at no taxpayer expenses, I could care less. Not something I would do but it he has his a right to do it as long as the recipients are not complaining. Prior to 24 hour news coverage and instant updates via the Internet, how much behavior--like this--took place? However, he better leave my Second Amendment rights alone!puma guy wrote: --snip--
He'll probably be re-elected and be made chairman of several important committees.
Someday we may see him as the Chair of the Ethics Commitee.
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The main problem with media bias now is that they don't think they ARE biased. The majority of journalists are liberal, and liberals of today aren't the liberals of yesteryear.
Current self identifying liberals in the media I tend to categorize as progressives. Progressives aren't interested in a debate. They're right, you're wrong, ignorant and stupid, not to mention destroying the planet and impeding our progress to a socialist utopia. As such, progressives in the media feel it is not only not biased, but their DUTY to report news with a left leaning slant. AFter all, why would they report something incorrectly (ie anything that doesn't fit their socialist agenda).
It is rather interesting to poke through the blogosphere and see progressives bemoaning CNN upholding and protecting the right wing, and conservatives complaining about the lingering liberal bias on Fox. Our own prejudices often color how we view reporting.
When a reporter fails to see his prejudices as preferences but instead as divine truth, then bias is introduced.
Current self identifying liberals in the media I tend to categorize as progressives. Progressives aren't interested in a debate. They're right, you're wrong, ignorant and stupid, not to mention destroying the planet and impeding our progress to a socialist utopia. As such, progressives in the media feel it is not only not biased, but their DUTY to report news with a left leaning slant. AFter all, why would they report something incorrectly (ie anything that doesn't fit their socialist agenda).
It is rather interesting to poke through the blogosphere and see progressives bemoaning CNN upholding and protecting the right wing, and conservatives complaining about the lingering liberal bias on Fox. Our own prejudices often color how we view reporting.
When a reporter fails to see his prejudices as preferences but instead as divine truth, then bias is introduced.
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Just for some perspective here is a list of some highlights of sex scandals in the past to see that this rates as about a 1 on the Richter scale.
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this is nothing newChris Lee, Representative (R-NY): Resigned hours after a news report that the married Congressman, who strongly promotes family values, had sent a shirtless picture of himself flexing his muscles to a woman via Craigslist, along with flirtatious emails.[2] He did not use a pseudonym or a false email address, but relied on his congressional email for all communication.
Mark Souder, Representative (R-IN): Resigned to avoid an ethics investigation into his admitted extramarital affair with a female staffer. Famously, he and the staffer had made a public video in which they both extolled the virtues of abstinence. (2010)[3][4][5]
Eric Massa, Representative (D-NY): Resigned to avoid an ethics investigation into his alleged groping and tickling of a young male staffer. (2010
Tim Mahoney, Representative (D-FL): He was elected to the seat of Mark Foley, who resigned following sexual harassment charges from his male congressional interns. Mahoney ran on a campaign promise to make "a world that is safer, more moral." In October 2008, he admitted he placed his mistress, Patricia Allen, on his staff and then fired her, saying, "You work at my pleasure." He then admitted to multiple affairs.[15]
Randall L. Tobias, Deputy Secretary of State (R) and former "AIDS Czar" appointed by George W. Bush: Stated that U.S. funds should be denied to countries
Brian J. Doyle, (R) Deputy Press Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security was indicted for seducing what he thought was a 14-year-old girl on the Internet; she was actually a sheriff's deputy. On November 17, 2006, he was sentenced to 5 years in prison, 10 years of probation, and was registered as a sex offender.[21]
Bill Clinton, President (D-AR): Revelations that White House intern Monica Lewinsky had oral sex with Clinton in the Oval Office leading him to famously declare on TV on January 26, 1998 that "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." The scandal led to impeachment by the House for perjury, for lying about the affair under oath. He was acquitted in the Senate by 10 votes. (1998)[32]
Newt Gingrich, Representative (R-GA) and leader of the Republican Revolution of 1994:[33] Admitted in 1998 to having had an affair with his intern Callista Bisek, while he was married to his second wife, and at the same time he was leading the impeachment of Bill Clinton for perjury regarding an affair with his intern Monica Lewinsky. (1998)[34][35]
and all the way back
Strom Thurmond, Senator (R-SC): The noted segregationist and onetime Ku Klux Klan member fathered a child, Essie Mae Washington-Williams, with 15-year-old African American who was employed by the Thurmond family[76]
Walter Jenkins (D): A longtime aide to President Lyndon B. Johnson, Jenkins was arrested for homosexual sex in a YMCA bathroom. (1964)[77]
David I. Walsh, Senator (D-MA): Accused of visiting a male brothel frequented by Nazi spies in Brooklyn in 1942.[78]
and even further back
Grover Cleveland, President (D): During the 1884 election, Cleveland, a bachelor, paid child support to Maria Crofts Halpin, even though he may not have been the father of her son. Halpin was known to have had sexual relationships with a number of men, including Cleveland's close friend and future father-in-law, Oscar Folsom, for whom the child was named. The controversy prompted Cleveland's opponents to adopt the chant, "Ma, ma, where's my pa?" After Cleveland won the election, the chant was answered by, "Gone to the White House, ha, ha, ha!" (1884)[81]
President James Buchanan (D) and future Vice President William Rufus King (D-NC): They were the subject of scandalous gossip alleging a homosexual affair in Washington, D.C. for many years. Andrew Jackson referred to them as Miss Nancy and Aunt Fancy. (1850s)
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I think our liberal friend took things the wrong way in this thread or is trying to deflect like most liberals do when things don't go their way. No one said that ONLY democrats get in trouble for removing their pants when they shouldn't. We're all fully aware that Republicans have done so in the past and will do so again in the future. The problem is that this guy instantly went to the victim card when he got caught (said his Twitter account got hacked). LIAR!! He should've come out first thing and said, Yes, I did it. Not make up some stupid story.
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if you look at my earlier post I said this guy was an idiot. Had he just admitted it in the first place it would not of been nearly as big a deal as it had become. Once again like many others he lost more of my respect in the cover-up than he would of had he just come clean. And yes I think he should resign given that he lied.texanron wrote:I think our liberal friend took things the wrong way in this thread or is trying to deflect like most liberals do when things don't go their way. No one said that ONLY democrats get in trouble for removing their pants when they shouldn't. We're all fully aware that Republicans have done so in the past and will do so again in the future. The problem is that this guy instantly went to the victim card when he got caught (said his Twitter account got hacked). LIAR!! He should've come out first thing and said, Yes, I did it. Not make up some stupid story.
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I saw an interview of Dianne Sawyer by Bill O'Rielly the other night. Bill shared some statistics about positive -vs- negative news stories in the last presidential election. ABC while still leaning left had the best mix while NBC was off the charts in their bias. Dianne Sawyer acknowledged that the major networks (including ABC) did in fact have a bias in their presidential election coverage. She also said that we would see a big difference in ABC's coverage of the upcoming election. Having a different reporter giving each side (left/right) of the stories. I'll wait and see......................74novaman wrote:The main problem with media bias now is that they don't think they ARE biased. The majority of journalists are liberal, and liberals of today aren't the liberals of yesteryear.
Current self identifying liberals in the media I tend to categorize as progressives. Progressives aren't interested in a debate. They're right, you're wrong, ignorant and stupid, not to mention destroying the planet and impeding our progress to a socialist utopia. As such, progressives in the media feel it is not only not biased, but their DUTY to report news with a left leaning slant. AFter all, why would they report something incorrectly (ie anything that doesn't fit their socialist agenda).
It is rather interesting to poke through the blogosphere and see progressives bemoaning CNN upholding and protecting the right wing, and conservatives complaining about the lingering liberal bias on Fox. Our own prejudices often color how we view reporting.
When a reporter fails to see his prejudices as preferences but instead as divine truth, then bias is introduced.
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Was this supposed to be an admission of prior wrong-doing on Dianne Sawyer's part?i8godzilla wrote:I saw an interview of Dianne Sawyer by Bill O'Rielly the other night. Bill shared some statistics about positive -vs- negative news stories in the last presidential election. ABC while still leaning left had the best mix while NBC was off the charts in their bias. Dianne Sawyer acknowledged that the major networks (including ABC) did in fact have a bias in their presidential election coverage. She also said that we would see a big difference in ABC's coverage of the upcoming election. Having a different reporter giving each side (left/right) of the stories. I'll wait and see......................74novaman wrote:The main problem with media bias now is that they don't think they ARE biased. The majority of journalists are liberal, and liberals of today aren't the liberals of yesteryear.
Current self identifying liberals in the media I tend to categorize as progressives. Progressives aren't interested in a debate. They're right, you're wrong, ignorant and stupid, not to mention destroying the planet and impeding our progress to a socialist utopia. As such, progressives in the media feel it is not only not biased, but their DUTY to report news with a left leaning slant. AFter all, why would they report something incorrectly (ie anything that doesn't fit their socialist agenda).
It is rather interesting to poke through the blogosphere and see progressives bemoaning CNN upholding and protecting the right wing, and conservatives complaining about the lingering liberal bias on Fox. Our own prejudices often color how we view reporting.
When a reporter fails to see his prejudices as preferences but instead as divine truth, then bias is introduced.

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Then you started bringing up scandals involving other politicians saying it wasn't only the democrats who do this sort of stuff when nobody said it was. Other members pointed out the obvious media bias in this case in which your response was to call them whiners. Not cool Bro.loadedliberal wrote:if you look at my earlier post I said this guy was an idiot. Had he just admitted it in the first place it would not of been nearly as big a deal as it had become. Once again like many others he lost more of my respect in the cover-up than he would of had he just come clean. And yes I think he should resign given that he lied.texanron wrote:I think our liberal friend took things the wrong way in this thread or is trying to deflect like most liberals do when things don't go their way. No one said that ONLY democrats get in trouble for removing their pants when they shouldn't. We're all fully aware that Republicans have done so in the past and will do so again in the future. The problem is that this guy instantly went to the victim card when he got caught (said his Twitter account got hacked). LIAR!! He should've come out first thing and said, Yes, I did it. Not make up some stupid story.
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he lied and accused Brietbart (or some other republican conspiracy) of the "hack".
I'd love to have time to do some research and find his reaction to some of the other recent "scandals"...was he calling for these other guys to resign? did he call for Lee to resign? eh, there really wasn't time, was there? but you get what I mean??? based on how he reacted to those is how he should react to this...I this isn't reading right, but I'm hoping you get the sense of what I mean.
I'd love to have time to do some research and find his reaction to some of the other recent "scandals"...was he calling for these other guys to resign? did he call for Lee to resign? eh, there really wasn't time, was there? but you get what I mean??? based on how he reacted to those is how he should react to this...I this isn't reading right, but I'm hoping you get the sense of what I mean.
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They'll reelect him in a flash.hirundo82 wrote:For me to be disappointed by this would mean I'd have to hold respect for politicians in the first place.
I don't see that this makes him unfit to hold office. That's for the voters in his district to decide next year. If he's reelected, they get the representation they deserve.


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So a politician from NY is a cheat and a liar..... Big Surprise.
Next news story please.

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