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Re: Young Conservatives of Texas-Spec Session-CampusCarry
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:59 pm
by Heartland Patriot
The Annoyed Man wrote:blackmesa wrote:On the other hand, considering what's on the agenda, if he doesn't add campus carry, why should American gun owners vote for him?
Because he'd be better than 4 more years of Obama, name the issue?
Look, I'd rather Perry push for campus carry too. But even if he doesn't, the fact remains that he
is generally pro-gun, and he will make a generally pro-gun president if elected. I'm not saying he is the best candidate, and I haven't made up my mind yet whom I would vote for in the primary. Even so, if he turns out to be the republican candidate in the general election, he will automatically have my vote. The alternative is 4 more years of Obama. If that's what you would be happy with, then fine, vote for Obama. But if you are
truly dedicated to getting him removed from office, you'll vote for a strong republican candidate, regardless of who that is. When Reagan ran for his first term, his big question was, "Are you better off today than you were before?" The answer, after 4 years of Carter, was a resounding "NO!" Reagan took 489 electoral college votes to Carter's 49. It was a wipeout.
Now, I remember Reagan fondly. But lest we color our lenses with too much rose, Governor Ronald Reagan of California signed the Mulford Act in 1967, "prohibiting the carrying of firearms on one's person or in a vehicle, in any public place or on any public street." The law was aimed at stopping the Black Panthers, but affected all gun owners. (
SOURCE) Twenty-four years later, Reagan was still pushing gun control. "I support the Brady Bill," he said in a March 28, 1991 speech, "and I urge the Congress to enact it without further delay."
But even with his poor record on gun rights, I would vote for Reagan over Obama at the drop of a hat. I would vote for Mongo (with or without his candygram) over Obama. I would vote for the Humpback of Notre Dame over Obama. I would vote for Olive Oyle over Obama.........I think I've made my point.
So Rick Perry? Sure, I would vote for him over Obama no problem.
TAM, your post cracked me up...I agree 100%. Only, I've been saying that I would vote for Mickey Mouse (the actual cartoon character) over Obama...maybe its the years I spent in California that highlight all that I do not like about the current National Administrator (since a lot of current California policy is of the same sort he espouses). So, I'm either as sane as you on this one, or as crazy...and either way, I'm fine with that.
Re: Young Conservatives of Texas-Spec Session-CampusCarry
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:26 pm
by Tamie
I don't think Obama will be on the ballot for the Republican primaries.
Re: Young Conservatives of Texas-Spec Session-CampusCarry
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:50 am
by The Annoyed Man
Tamie wrote:No campus carry in the special session means no vote for Perry in the primaries from me and most people I know.
In a choice between Obama and Perry yes. But that's not the choice we have in the primaries.
That's reasonable. Unlike you, I'm still undecided about the primary, the one exception being that I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul to be dog catcher.
Re: Young Conservatives of Texas-Spec Session-CampusCarry
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:30 am
by SQLGeek
The Annoyed Man wrote:Tamie wrote:No campus carry in the special session means no vote for Perry in the primaries from me and most people I know.
In a choice between Obama and Perry yes. But that's not the choice we have in the primaries.
That's reasonable. Unlike you, I'm still undecided about the primary, the one exception being that I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul to be dog catcher.
I'm not really thrilled about the primary choices...
Re: Young Conservatives of Texas-Spec Session-CampusCarry
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:02 pm
by BrianSW99
SQLGeek wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:Tamie wrote:No campus carry in the special session means no vote for Perry in the primaries from me and most people I know.
In a choice between Obama and Perry yes. But that's not the choice we have in the primaries.
That's reasonable. Unlike you, I'm still undecided about the primary, the one exception being that I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul to be dog catcher.
I'm not really thrilled about the primary choices...
I really wish Gov. Perry would add campus carry to the special session too, but even if he doesn't he still has a strong history of supporting gun rights. I think he'd still have my vote right now in the primaries based on what I've seen of the other candidates.
Brian
Re: Young Conservatives of Texas-Spec Session-CampusCarry
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:57 pm
by raptor
I think the special session shows what his priorities are. If that matches your priorities (anniversary celebrations are more important than saving innocent lives on college campuses) then go ahead and vote for him.
Re: Young Conservatives of Texas-Spec Session-CampusCarry
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:01 pm
by ScottDLS
raptor wrote:I think the special session shows what his priorities are. If that matches your priorities (anniversary celebrations are more important than saving innocent lives on college campuses) then go ahead and vote for him.
No thanks... I'll vote for Obama instead. He is truly leading the charge for gun rights.
Re: Young Conservatives of Texas-Spec Session-CampusCarry
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:07 pm
by BrianSW99
ScottDLS wrote:raptor wrote:I think the special session shows what his priorities are. If that matches your priorities (anniversary celebrations are more important than saving innocent lives on college campuses) then go ahead and vote for him.
No thanks... I'll vote for Obama instead. He is truly leading the charge for gun rights.
Hey, Obama's been great for gun rights... He signed National Park carry into law! Not to mention all the guns that were bought and CHLs obtained because he was elected...
Re: Young Conservatives of Texas-Spec Session-CampusCarry
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:21 am
by KD5NRH
The Annoyed Man wrote:But even with his poor record on gun rights, I would vote for Reagan over Obama at the drop of a hat. I would vote for Mongo (with or without his candygram) over Obama. I would vote for the Humpback of Notre Dame over Obama. I would vote for Olive Oyle over Obama.........I think I've made my point.
No; you've dodged the important question. Since Carter could run again, would you vote for him over Obama?
Re: Young Conservatives of Texas-Spec Session-CampusCarry
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:34 am
by The Annoyed Man
KD5NRH wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:But even with his poor record on gun rights, I would vote for Reagan over Obama at the drop of a hat. I would vote for Mongo (with or without his candygram) over Obama. I would vote for the Humpback of Notre Dame over Obama. I would vote for Olive Oyle over Obama.........I think I've made my point.
No; you've dodged the important question. Since Carter could run again, would you vote for him over Obama?
Obama is Carter in drag. So.... no, I wouldn't.
Re: Young Conservatives of Texas-Spec Session-CampusCarry
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:19 am
by sjfcontrol
The Annoyed Man wrote:KD5NRH wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:But even with his poor record on gun rights, I would vote for Reagan over Obama at the drop of a hat. I would vote for Mongo (with or without his candygram) over Obama. I would vote for the Humpback of Notre Dame over Obama. I would vote for Olive Oyle over Obama.........I think I've made my point.
No; you've dodged the important question. Since Carter could run again, would you vote for him over Obama?
Obama is Carter in drag. So.... no, I wouldn't.
