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Re: Question - Safe method of transporting weapon

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:38 am
by C-dub
I have had one beer with my dinner on several occasions on not worried about it. In your circumstance I would either keep it concealed and milk that one beer, not go at all, or leave my gun at home that day in anticipation of going. Going out with "the guys" for happy hour is a little different than just having dinner with the family.

Re: Question - Safe method of transporting weapon

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:16 am
by Ameer
The religious fundamentalists have already given their opinion on the evils of alcohol, so I'll simply say if you;re intoxicated you're too impaired to legally carry or drive. By definition. Drunk drivers also kill a lot more innocent people than drunk CHL, so if you lock up the gun, lock up the car. To lock up the gun, Academy has a lockbox for $20 or $30, depending if you want a key lock or a combo lock. You can put your car keys in there too. :mrgreen:

Re: Question - Safe method of transporting weapon

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:44 am
by TDDude
The Annoyed Man wrote: You can have zero impairment. Impairment is a subjective standard, and it is the officer's prerogative to decide if impairment exists. You might have one beer on board, consumed an hour earlier over dinner, and not be impaired. But if you get pulled over and an officer smells that beer on your breath, and he judges that you're impaired, then you're in trouble. If he judges that you're not impaired, then you're not in trouble.

That's my understanding of the law.
This is exactly correct. The .08 mark is just a given standard and blowing it really makes your case easy to prosecute. This is why lawyers will always advise that you "don't blow" when stopped. If you blow and register that mark, you're going for a ride and you won't be able to win in court. Other than that, if the officer thinks that you are "off" for any reason, he can hook you up and you're in for a very long day.

The Penal Code defines "Intoxicated as not having normal use of mental or physical faculties by reason of ...(drugs listed) .... OR ANY OTHER SUBSTANCE INTO THE BODY; or .08 concentration……. Basically, if anything, legal or not, is in your body and it affects the user, it's covered. There are a lot of over the counter cold remedies that can cause drowsiness. They can land you in the soup.

I think the "Zero Tolerance" may be a good idea as a personal credo, especially if that person likes to imbibe. It was mine for many years and it's still a rare time that I break it and then I limit myself to one beer with a meal.

PREACHING MOMENT NOW: Carrying a pistol requires a change in thinking, a change in dress, and it should also require a change in actions and habits. If you are in the habit of hoisting a few and now you’re carrying, something needs to change. OK, not preaching.

But, if you do find yourself with buds and have a few buds, putting the pistol in a locked case, whether you have the combination or not, is all you really have to do. However, please get someone else to drive.

Re: Question - Safe method of transporting weapon

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:26 pm
by boba
G26ster wrote:Hi, I'm the pilot that will be flying you and your family home for Thanksgiving. You don't mind if me, my First officer, and the cabin crew knock down a few beers before we takeoff, do ya?
Did you bring enough to share with everyone. I could use a drink after being groped by TSA.

Re: Question - Safe method of transporting weapon

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:32 am
by tommyg
If you are going to drink take your gun home then meet your friends at a bar and take a cab home

getting picked up for drunkin driving will cost you your

chl for at least 5 years probably 7 years then you have to go to drunk school

have your driver's license suspended, then pay a big fine

Your lawyer will get his share of your worldly wealth also :biggrinjester:

You will get to changing car insurance companies to a high risk specialist

the total cost will run 15k or more why not spend a few bucks on a cab and avoid all of this crud

Re: Question - Safe method of transporting weapon

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:25 pm
by C-dub
boba wrote:
G26ster wrote:Hi, I'm the pilot that will be flying you and your family home for Thanksgiving. You don't mind if me, my First officer, and the cabin crew knock down a few beers before we takeoff, do ya?
Did you bring enough to share with everyone. I could use a drink after being groped by TSA.
I could use one before. Hey, I'm not flying that thing. :lol:

Re: Question - Safe method of transporting weapon

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:27 pm
by C-dub
TDDude wrote: This is exactly correct. The .08 mark is just a given standard and blowing it really makes your case easy to prosecute. This is why lawyers will always advise that you "don't blow" when stopped. If you blow and register that mark, you're going for a ride and you won't be able to win in court. Other than that, if the officer thinks that you are "off" for any reason, he can hook you up and you're in for a very long day.
And now, if you don't submit to the breathalyzer the officer can draw your blood or take you somewhere to have your blood drawn for a blood alcohol content test. You might get that extra little bit of time for the alcohol to metabolize, but the BAC is much more accurate than the breathalyzer.

Re: Question - Safe method of transporting weapon

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:18 pm
by fulano
boba wrote:
G26ster wrote:Hi, I'm the pilot that will be flying you and your family home for Thanksgiving. You don't mind if me, my First officer, and the cabin crew knock down a few beers before we takeoff, do ya?
Did you bring enough to share with everyone. I could use a drink after being groped by TSA.
I don't drink and I think I'd want something if I knew the pilot was loaded, errrr...intoxicated :shock: