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Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:21 am
by sjfcontrol
RPB wrote:Nice, but the keys are in the wrong places; I used one of these in College. The vowels are handier, and most words have at least one
http://pediaview.com/openpedia/Dvorak_S ... d_Keyboard" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is the "Right hand-only .... to see the Left hand only or the 2-hander, click link above.
Many Operating Systems have key-remapping now, but back then I had to pay about $200 for one from Northgate which had microswitches on it for which configuration you wanted. A 2-handed Secretary at an oil company won a speed typing competition with a Dvorak keyboard ... over 300 words per minute

The old typewriters got keys stuck if you typed fast, the qwerty layout is to prevent typing fast; the Dvorack layout facilitates typing fast by laying out the most commonly used characters on or near the finger rest position/home line so everyone can type REAL fast..... Still , I only type half-fast no matter what keyboard I use.
Wow! Just imagine how many errors-per-minute I could make with that thing!
or
You could use one of those, but use regular QWERTY touch typing, and call the result "encrypted".

Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:52 am
by Bulldog1911
Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:57 am
by Bulldog1911
RPB wrote:Nice, but the keys are in the wrong places; I used one of these in College. The vowels are handier, and most words have at least one
http://pediaview.com/openpedia/Dvorak_S ... d_Keyboard" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is the "Right hand-only .... to see the Left hand only or the 2-hander, click link above.
Many Operating Systems have key-remapping now, but back then I had to pay about $200 for one from Northgate which had microswitches on it for which configuration you wanted. A 2-handed Secretary at an oil company won a speed typing competition with a Dvorak keyboard ... over 300 words per minute

The old typewriters got keys stuck if you typed fast, the qwerty layout is to prevent typing fast; the Dvorack layout facilitates typing fast by laying out the most commonly used characters on or near the finger rest position/home line so everyone can type REAL fast..... Still , I only type half-fast no matter what keyboard I use.
Makes you wonder how the QWERTY won out...
Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:00 am
by SQLGeek
Tradition, because QWERTY was used on typewriters and it is what everybody was already used to.
Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:12 am
by sjfcontrol
SQLGeek wrote:Tradition, because QWERTY was used on typewriters and it is what everybody was already used to.
Also, because there wasn't a distinct transition from Typewriters to computer keyboards.
Manual Typewriter, electric typewriter, IBM Selectric typewriter, teletype, keypunch, built-in computer keyboard, separate computer keyboard. And each used the QWERTY layout.
The first computer I ever used, an IBM 1620 used an electric typewriter that was mechanically controlled to print output, and had sensors attached to each key for input.
Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:22 am
by SQLGeek
Good point.
Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:47 am
by gigag04
SQLGeek wrote:gigag04 wrote:The keyboard only works well for fantasy and role play gaming. First person shooters and military games aren't compatible.
You'd have to use something other than WASD, that's for sure.
Ah Dvorak, I experimented with that for a little while using a QWERTY keyboard. Wasn't worth the frustration. I got my inspriation from a programming instructor of mine that was trying it out and had done rather well with it.
It was actually a jab at UT's lackluster military history compared to TAMU via the silly keyboard.
Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:57 am
by fickman
sjfcontrol wrote:SQLGeek wrote:Tradition, because QWERTY was used on typewriters and it is what everybody was already used to.
Also, because there wasn't a distinct transition from Typewriters to computer keyboards.
Manual Typewriter, electric typewriter, IBM Selectric typewriter, teletype, keypunch, built-in computer keyboard, separate computer keyboard. And each used the QWERTY layout.
The first computer I ever used, an IBM 1620 used an electric typewriter that was mechanically controlled to print output, and had sensors attached to each key for input.
Besides being laid out to prevent the keys from jamming when typing fast, the QWERTY layout had one other nice feature. . . all of the letters for "TYPEWRITER" are on the top row. The salesmen appreciated that and it was good for business. Legend says the designer tweaked the final arrangement of the letters with this in mind. . . but whether he did or not, it was probably a feature that helped the QWERTY format become established over the first 100 years of its existence.
Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:19 am
by UpTheIrons
A-R wrote:So I guess that keyboard will only be able to enter a W five times each football season and won't be able to spell "bowl" ?

You. Yes you! Send me a new keyboard, right now.
And I bleed burnt orange, too.

Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:31 am
by RPB
In the 1960s, when touch tone phones came out, I got irritated at the number layout not being the same as a calculator/
adding machine.
(During my invention of a frequency separating data compression device, using similar methods as current DSL modems use)
The phone company ordered supplies over long distance phone calls, using the touch tones ... I invented a device to compress those tones, play them over phone lines at higher speeds, and one could also have a conversation at the same time.... saving the phone company long distance circuits being tied up as long.
Device never patented nor marketed though.... just copied 10 years later after I told people about it and showed it to them, then was "invented" a handheld device for .... grocery store inventory... (just before bar codes).
They 2 numerical keyboard layouts were irritating.
I'm surprised accountants ever bought telephones after that

Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:05 pm
by sjfcontrol
fickman wrote:sjfcontrol wrote:SQLGeek wrote:Tradition, because QWERTY was used on typewriters and it is what everybody was already used to.
Also, because there wasn't a distinct transition from Typewriters to computer keyboards.
Manual Typewriter, electric typewriter, IBM Selectric typewriter, teletype, keypunch, built-in computer keyboard, separate computer keyboard. And each used the QWERTY layout.
The first computer I ever used, an IBM 1620 used an electric typewriter that was mechanically controlled to print output, and had sensors attached to each key for input.
Besides being laid out to prevent the keys from jamming when typing fast, the QWERTY layout had one other nice feature. . . all of the letters for "TYPEWRITER" are on the top row. The salesmen appreciated that and it was good for business. Legend says the designer tweaked the final arrangement of the letters with this in mind. . . but whether he did or not, it was probably a feature that helped the QWERTY format become established over the first 100 years of its existence.
Why would that be an advantage to the salesmen, or anybody for that matter?
Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:39 pm
by SQLGeek
gigag04 wrote:
It was actually a jab at UT's lackluster military history compared to TAMU via the silly keyboard.
Dur...I somehow associated your comment with the Dvorak keyboard comment, not the OP. Whoops.
Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:04 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
Q. Did you hear about the Aggie girl that was pregnant and worried?
A. She was afraid it wasn't hers!
SIA
Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:10 pm
by The Mad Moderate
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:Q. Did you hear about the Aggie girl that was pregnant and worried?
A. She was afraid it wasn't hers!
SIA
An Aggie, a Baylor Bear, and a Texas Longhorn need some money. So they decide to rob a bank. They rob the bank and then hear the cops coming, so they hide in the woods. The Baylor Bear climbs into a tree, and when the cops come by, he shakes the branches and makes bird noises. The cops think it's just some birds, so they go on. The Longhorn climbs into a tree and shakes the branches, and the cops think it's a squirrel, so they go on. The Aggie climbs into a tree. The cops hear some rustling and they say, "What was that?"
And the Aggie goes, " Moo! Mooo!"
Q. How do you get a one armed aggie out of a tree
A. Wave
Q. how do you kill an aggie
A. put a scratch and sniff at the bottom of a pool
Re: For all you Aggies...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:40 pm
by The Annoyed Man
What do you call an Aggie, two weeks after graduation?
"Boss."