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Re: I.C.E. Agent

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:13 am
by SQLGeek
terryg wrote:Forgive me ... But what is an ICE agent?
Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The replacement agency for US Customs and INS.

Re: I.C.E. Agent

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:49 pm
by srothstein
AEA wrote:
srothstein wrote:If a CHL could legally have the gun where the ICE agent did and forgot it in the bathroom, what charges would you bring against him?
How about failure to conceal?
You are correct that this one might be filed. But, if it was an accident as stated, then the intentional part of the law is not met.
How about failure to control?
Sorry, I am not familiar with that law. Which code section are you referring to?
I'm not saying that the CHL would be convicted, but in reality I think an overzealous Cop could come up with all sorts of "charges" for the CHL to "take the ride".
This is always a possibility, even for people who are not breaking the law at all. I was really asking about the law, not the abuse thereof by the police.

Re: I.C.E. Agent

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:58 pm
by AEA
Failure to Control most likely is not a Law. :tiphat:

What I meant by that is loosing control of your weapon, thus allowing anyone who comes across it to take it.

If that is not a Law, then it should be. Teenager in the restroom picks it up. Convicted Felon on Parole in the restroom finds it and takes it, commits a robbery and kills someone.

Those types of things is what I meant by Failure to Control.
Maybe I should have said something like "Endangering Public Safety"?

Re: I.C.E. Agent

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:26 pm
by srothstein
Thanks AEA. I could agree that we might need to look at a law covering situations like this. My point was that it is not currently against the law, other than the failure to conceal might be.

Re: I.C.E. Agent

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:21 am
by mamabearCali
I know situations like this are disturbing, but I would bet he won't do that again. I really don't think we need to come up with new laws. Don't the ones we have cause enough problems already?