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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:03 am
by rickb308
dolanp wrote:I think it might be a worthwhile pursuit for the legislative agenda Chas. I have always felt that a campus can be a very dangerous place at night, and many people have night classes. Even during the day, things can happen.
Eastfield College, DCCCD, Mesquite, Texas
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/brazielalvin.htm
On 9/21/1993 at 9:00 p.m. in Mesquite, Braziel approached a newlywed couple walking on a jogging trail of a community college. Braziel demanded money. When it was discovered that neither of the two had any money in their possession, Braziel shot the 27 year old white male, resulting in his death. Braziel then sexually assaulted the 23 year old white female. Braziel linked to the crime in January 2001 when his DNA was found to match the DNA taken from the female victim.
I vote for
at least carrying.
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:17 am
by gigag04
rickb308 wrote:I vote for at least carrying.
Yeah - I'm all for it as long as securing it in the room is good to go as well.
We have had a few "Campus security" incidents in which a male was stalking, following females at night.
We are unique in the sense that we make the Corps of cadets provde an escort service 24/7 during the semester so that any girl leaving the library late at night can have a male in uniform escort her back to her dorm, or to/from parking lot.
However, I would love for the ladies to be able to carry a well placed Desert Eagle just to teach JA's like that a lesson.
TAP TAP
-nick
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:33 pm
by stevie_d_64
gigag04 wrote:rickb308 wrote:I vote for at least carrying.
TAP TAP
-nick
You know a good rule I heard once was:
"...When in doubt, empty the magazine, then reload..."
Made sence to me...
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:59 am
by rickb308
stevie_d_64 wrote:gigag04 wrote:rickb308 wrote:I vote for at least carrying.
TAP TAP
-nick
You know a good rule I heard once was:
"...When in doubt, empty the magazine, then reload..."
Made sence to me...
Rules of Gunfighting
Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is
cheap. Life is expensive.
Seen as a sig file:
Double tap? I'm going for slide lock.
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:27 am
by Tecumseh
Charles L. Cotton wrote:gigag04 wrote:I feel your pains (to some degree), I'm a student at Texas A&M, where this no carry law. Even on the busses. UPD (University police) informed me that I could leave it in my vehicle, even in a garage, and I could carry outside bldgs, but I couldn't go inside any bldgs (which they are correct).
I wish I had a better feel for how many people are effected by the current state of the law regarding on-campus carry at universities. Perhaps this is something we should add to the TSRA 2007 Legislative Agenda. Mschadt raises an excellent point about the problem of on-campus car burglaries at many colleges and universities. This point could be used to counter the argument that the students can simply leave the guns in their cars.
The biggest problem changing this would be the legitimate concern many will have about guns in dorms. Animal House is going to be the first thing people think about, even if the movie was set in a frat. house rather than a dorm. I know some states allow guns on campus at colleges and universities, but this would be a hard sell in Austin. Let me scratch my head and visit with some folks on this one.
Regards,
Chas.
Any progress on college carry for the TSRA 2007 agenda?
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:30 am
by PWK
gigag04 wrote:
"We are unique in the sense that we make the Corps of cadets provde an escort service 24/7 during the semester so that any girl leaving the library late at night can have a male in uniform escort her back to her dorm, or to/from parking lot."
Im glad he brought this up. My son worked for the campus police at SHSU when he was going to school there. He said most colleges offer escort service but it is rarely used. Probably because students dont know about it.
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:37 am
by PWK
Also, I believe walking on campus at night is about the most dangerous place I go. I am always on high alert there.
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:41 pm
by KBCraig
About midway through my studies at Redneck Tech --oops, sorry, "Arkansas Tech University"-- c.1981-1985, they installed "safety lights" at the women's dorms. Because the dorms were locked at a certain hour, a woman needing in could press a button on a pole, and blue flashing light would activate. Campus security making rounds would see this light on their next round, and would use their key to let the student into her dorm. Whenever that might happen to be.
We called them the "rape-me whoopie lights". "Here I am, all alone, locked out of my dorm late at night!" To their credit, lady students had better sense than to use them. They could walk to a men's dorm, knock on a random door, and have better odds of finding a safe place to spend the night.
Kevin
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:45 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Tecumseh: Not at this point, we have our planning meeting in November.
Chas.
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:07 pm
by Venus Pax
Charles, Are you on a planning committee with TSRA?
If so, what is on the agenda?
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:44 pm
by cyphur
rickb308 wrote:dolanp wrote:I think it might be a worthwhile pursuit for the legislative agenda Chas. I have always felt that a campus can be a very dangerous place at night, and many people have night classes. Even during the day, things can happen.
Eastfield College, DCCCD, Mesquite, Texas
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/brazielalvin.htm
On 9/21/1993 at 9:00 p.m. in Mesquite, Braziel approached a newlywed couple walking on a jogging trail of a community college. Braziel demanded money. When it was discovered that neither of the two had any money in their possession, Braziel shot the 27 year old white male, resulting in his death. Braziel then sexually assaulted the 23 year old white female. Braziel linked to the crime in January 2001 when his DNA was found to match the DNA taken from the female victim.
I vote for
at least carrying.
I work at the District Service Center which is adjacent to Eastfield College(one of the colleges in my district that I service). One of the first welcoming comments was "yea, some guy got killed over on the jogging trail, great neighborhood......". They still talk about it quite frequently as I was just hired in March.
I also service El Centro College in downtown Dallas, and Bill J Priest which is in the GHETTO. I'm on call 24/7 as a network admin.
Do I get to carry? Only my pocket knife.....
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:31 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Venus Pax wrote:Charles, Are you on a planning committee with TSRA?
If so, what is on the agenda?
Yes, I'm the Vice Chairman of the TSRA Legislative Committee. The agenda doesn't get set until the November meeting. Prior to that, we gather information, evaluate support on various issues and proposed bills (ours and our opponents), communicate with and evaluate potential bill sponsors and try to develop a priority list. Then shortly before the November meeting, I draft my personal Proposed Agenda and present it at the meeting where it is discussed along with those of other committee members.
Regards,
Chas.
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:39 am
by carlson1
Mr. Cotton - go ahead and propose for us to carry everywhere LEO's do for the exception of the courts
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:37 am
by Tecumseh
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Tecumseh: Not at this point, we have our planning meeting in November.
Chas.
Thanks for the information. I am applying to a few schools in Texas and bringing the guns was a concern. My current school in IL has a place to store guns but I suspect that not all schools will.
Does anyone know if U of Texas at Austin or Texas AM at College Station have gun storage for students who live on campus?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:07 am
by texag06
Tecumseh:
I'm a student at A&M, but I never lived in the on-campus dorms, so I can't give you an answer yet. I'll try to look on the A&M website (
http://www.tamu.edu) and see what I can find.
-Dustin
