Dropped shotgun kills 13 year old Seabrook boy

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Re: Dropped shotgun kills 13 year old Seabrook boy

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Heartland Patriot wrote:Seems to me, from what I remember, that hammerless break-open shotguns cock either on opening or closing, but are indeed cocked when you close them back up...and with a round in the chamber, MAYBE if it hit right, it could go off. I remember having an old H&R 20 gauge single shot when I was a kid, but it had a hammer and a "half-cocked" notch or safety catch...I know I dropped it while it was loaded a couple of times and it never went off, but that was on dirt or grass, or mud, and not a hard floor in a house. I was given that shotgun when I was a younger teenager, maybe 14...and I went all over the brush country where we lived with it, shooting rabbits, and quail and dove during the seasons, (and rattlesnakes, too)...but I never "played" with that shotgun. I learned gun safety from my Dad at an even younger age (thank you Dad) and I have done the same with my own children in regards to gun safety. Sad business, indeed.
No one wins on this one, at all.
I had an old break open single shot .410 shotgun at one time. If I recall correctly, I had to manually cock the hammer after loading it.

It did have a floating firing pin, but with that arrangement, it would be hard to come up with a scenario to impart enough energy to the pin to fire the shell in any manner other than being struck by the hammer. Jarring the hammer off the sear from a fall would certainly be possible, and I never tested that because I didn't cock it unless I was planning on shooting it right then. I suppose it could happen if the gun were mounted in a vertical rack of some type and it was driven over a rough road, duplicating the issue Steve described with riot guns, but that would be a most unusual way of transporting it.

In the case described in this post, if the "dropped gun" account is true, I figure most likely the hammer was jarred off the sear by the impact and there was no effective half cock notch to catch it before it hit the firing pin.
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Re: Dropped shotgun kills 13 year old Seabrook boy

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Oldgringo wrote:
Commander Cody wrote:One of my wife’s uncle’s was taking a .410 shotgun down from a rack over his front door. He dropped it onto the floor butt first. The gun went off shooting him under his chin. He died instantly. Could have happened. Just sayin…
Why are 1911's carried "cocked and locked"?
Because people insist JMB wanted it this way but I have never seen him state that. It is almost perfectly safe given the 100 yr history of the gun.
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Re: Dropped shotgun kills 13 year old Seabrook boy

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However this occurred it is a very sad situation.
If guns kill people, then pencils misspell words.
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