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Re: employee handbook - wording question...
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:18 am
by schufflerbot
I agree with canvas... while I will certainly wait and feel out the management here before i engage in any conversations on the subject, I have no intention of completely hiding my interest in firearms.
I have no political agenda behind this, I just like to talk and the topic will inevitably come up at one point or another.
Now, if I bring it up and the CEO tells a story of how his parents were shot and killed or something, I wont ever mention it again... lol
Re: employee handbook - wording question...
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:58 am
by paulhailes
schufflerbot wrote:I agree with canvas... while I will certainly wait and feel out the management here before i engage in any conversations on the subject, I have no intention of completely hiding my interest in firearms.
I have no political agenda behind this, I just like to talk and the topic will inevitably come up at one point or another.
Now, if I bring it up and the CEO tells a story of how his parents were shot and killed or something, I wont ever mention it again... lol
Even if the CEO follows it up with a story of how he never goes anywhere without a gun because of that?
I am the same way, I like to talk about the things that interest me and it would be hard to not ever mention guns.
Re: employee handbook - wording question...
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:15 pm
by Beiruty
Most of the time Co will never authorize the carry of weapons by their employees simply because of the fear of liability. Of course, when an employee goes postal, Co would say how we should have known or it is beyond our control. CHLer are good guys, however, if a CHLer went nuts and went postal, the Co would go down quick as the it has previous knowledge of CHLer carrying or authorized the carrying.
Just saying what's their point of view.
Re: employee handbook - wording question...
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:41 am
by mlawler
I work at a small company with 4 other employees, all of them female. My 'employee handbook' prohibits weapons in the workplace but they all know I shoot weekend IDPA/3-gun matches and that I have a CHL. When we had a home invasion in the neighborhood adjacent to our location, my boss MADE me go get my gun and CC it the rest of that day!
Re: employee handbook - wording question...
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:32 am
by speedsix
...I would never bring the word gun into a workplace where I was an employee...kinda like pokin' a wasp's nest...it only takes one flyin' up at you to ruin your day...or give you effective notice...I would carry constantly and quietly...and noone would ever know it unless it became necessary to use it...too many idiots who are afraid of guns and too many liability-conscious employers...the employee handbook isn't law...better to ask forgiveness than permission doesn't ONLY work with wives...
Re: employee handbook - wording question...
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:09 am
by HotLeadSolutions
speedsix wrote:...I would never bring the word gun into a workplace where I was an employee...kinda like pokin' a wasp's nest...it only takes one flyin' up at you to ruin your day...or give you effective notice...I would carry constantly and quietly...and noone would ever know it unless it became necessary to use it...too many idiots who are afraid of guns and too many liability-conscious employers...the employee handbook isn't law...better to ask forgiveness than permission doesn't ONLY work with wives...
Speed: You always have such an elogant way of putting things...

Re: employee handbook - wording question...
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:49 am
by speedsix
...not always...my mouth has often known the taste of toejam...

Re: employee handbook - wording question...
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:10 pm
by johnson0317
Yeah, try it on one of those little triangle toast thingys...tastes much better.
Re: employee handbook - wording question...
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:15 am
by ninemm
After I retired, I went back to work for the same company through a firm that handled the required insurance and engineering firm registration for a year (no personal contract). The second and subsequent years, I formed my own engineering firm and handled my own insurance. The contract I was asked to sign had the standard language about guns in the workplace (on about page 4 of 9) and all that but I carefully amended that page (using exactly the same font and spacing) to allow me to carry (as a CHL holder) and submitted the signed contract (and each page initialed). I guess they never noticed. I know they would terminate the contract and I would no longer be allowed to work for them if some event outed me but my editing of the contract was more of an attempt to prevent a compensatory breach of contract claim.
Re: employee handbook - wording question...
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:23 am
by canvasbck
ninemm wrote:After I retired, I went back to work for the same company through a firm that handled the required insurance and engineering firm registration for a year (no personal contract). The second and subsequent years, I formed my own engineering firm and handled my own insurance. The contract I was asked to sign had the standard language about guns in the workplace (on about page 4 of 9) and all that but I carefully amended that page (using exactly the same font and spacing) to allow me to carry (as a CHL holder) and submitted the signed contract (and each page initialed). I guess they never noticed. I know they would terminate the contract and I would no longer be allowed to work for them if some event outed me but my editing of the contract was more of an attempt to prevent a compensatory breach of contract claim.

Bravo sir.......this is awesome

Re: employee handbook - wording question...
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:24 am
by speedsix
ninemm wrote:After I retired, I went back to work for the same company through a firm that handled the required insurance and engineering firm registration for a year (no personal contract). The second and subsequent years, I formed my own engineering firm and handled my own insurance. The contract I was asked to sign had the standard language about guns in the workplace (on about page 4 of 9) and all that but I carefully amended that page (using exactly the same font and spacing) to allow me to carry (as a CHL holder) and submitted the signed contract (and each page initialed). I guess they never noticed. I know they would terminate the contract and I would no longer be allowed to work for them if some event outed me but my editing of the contract was more of an attempt to prevent a compensatory breach of contract claim.
...I LIKE IT!!!...hope you got a SIGNED copy of that contract...shows a lotta backbone...and............stuff...