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Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:05 am
by The Annoyed Man
VMI77 wrote:Everyone should be scared if this guys is right (
http://thesilicongraybeard.blogspot.com/):
This amendment deals with illegal plants -- the primary thrust being illegal wood. Henceforth, all wood is to be a federally regulated, suspect substance. Either raw wood, lumber, or anything made of wood, from tables and chairs, to flooring, siding, particle board, to handles on knives, baskets, chopsticks, or even toothpicks has to have a label naming the genus and species of the tree that it came from and the country of origin. Incorrect labeling becomes a federal felony, and the law does not just apply to wood newly entering the country, but any wood that is in interstate commerce within the country. Here are some excerpts from a summary:
Looking around my house, not one piece of wooden furniture - either the ones I built or the ones I bought - has a label telling the genus and species it came from along with the country of origin. Certainly the toothpicks and knife handles don't. I see perhaps 2 dozen felonies within eye shot. Perhaps I should shut up about that.
Anyone who imports into the United States, or exports out of the United States, illegally harvested plants or products made from illegally harvested plants, including timber, as well as anyone who exports, transports, sells, receives, acquires or purchases such products in the United States, may be prosecuted.
Democrats did this. A republican president vetoed it. Democrats over-rode his veto. I know that there are good, patriotic democrats on this board. I have two questions for them:
1) Are you in favor of this? This will not be removed from the law without a change of administration.
2) If yes, then nothing more needs to be said. If no, then who are you going to vote for in 2012—Obama? Whichever republican wins the primary? Or a 3rd party candidate, helping to throw the election to Obama?
Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:12 am
by AJMag
VMI77 wrote:Everyone should be scared if this guys is right (
http://thesilicongraybeard.blogspot.com/):
This amendment deals with illegal plants -- the primary thrust being illegal wood. Henceforth, all wood is to be a federally regulated, suspect substance. Either raw wood, lumber, or anything made of wood, from tables and chairs, to flooring, siding, particle board, to handles on knives, baskets, chopsticks, or even toothpicks has to have a label naming the genus and species of the tree that it came from and the country of origin. Incorrect labeling becomes a federal felony, and the law does not just apply to wood newly entering the country, but any wood that is in interstate commerce within the country. Here are some excerpts from a summary:
Looking around my house, not one piece of wooden furniture - either the ones I built or the ones I bought - has a label telling the genus and species it came from along with the country of origin. Certainly the toothpicks and knife handles don't. I see perhaps 2 dozen felonies within eye shot. Perhaps I should shut up about that.
Anyone who imports into the United States, or exports out of the United States, illegally harvested plants or products made from illegally harvested plants, including timber, as well as anyone who exports, transports, sells, receives, acquires or purchases such products in the United States, may be prosecuted.
What I see from this, is if they can regulate ALL pieces of of wood federally, then we all need to be switching to synthetic stocks. So next they'll be raiding Hogue and other stock manufacturers to inspect the wood they use.

Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:16 am
by AEA
Not to mention ALL GUN MANUFACTURERS IN THE USA!
Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:20 am
by OldCannon
Ok, clearly the President is out of tune with the rest of the country.
I'm sorry, I just had to say it that way

Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:58 am
by AJMag
maybe obama's a fender fan and has a grudge against gibson. Nevermind, guitar players are cool guys, that leaves obama out. Must just be a hate towards our evil western rock and roll filth

Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:30 pm
by Heartland Patriot
AJMag wrote:maybe obama's a fender fan and has a grudge against gibson. Nevermind, guitar players are cool guys, that leaves obama out. Must just be a hate towards our evil western rock and roll filth

I'll tell you what I hate...the fact that rock n' roll got co-opted from being about freedom, doing you own thing, etc. to being a good leftist and supporting whatever the left says, no matter what that is...like this administration invading a GUITAR FACTORY with weaponry over some WOOD...

Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:35 pm
by RPB
AJMag wrote:maybe obama's a
Fender fan and has a grudge against
Gibson. Nevermind, guitar players are cool guys, that leaves obama out. Must just be a hate towards our evil western rock and roll filth

you may have something there
The Fender Standard, Made in Mexico Telecaster
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Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:44 pm
by SQLGeek
This is simple, Gibson didn't pay their fair share to the Head Cheese ala GE, Goldman Sachs, ad naseum.
Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:59 pm
by raptor
The Annoyed Man wrote:not to mention that counties or cities are dry because that's the way the majority of voters wanted it at the time. Back then, that was democracy in action.
What happens with the Obama administration, including this, is the result of democracy in action.
Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:17 pm
by The Annoyed Man
raptor wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:not to mention that counties or cities are dry because that's the way the majority of voters wanted it at the time. Back then, that was democracy in action.
What happens with the Obama administration, including this, is the result of democracy in action.
I'll bet you $100 that democrat congress critters did not publicize to their constituents that this was in the bill. That's not so much democracy in action. That's deliberately hiding what you're doing so The People don't find out about it until its too late. Kinda like when Pelosi said that they would have to pass the healthcare bill so that we can find out what's in it.

Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:52 pm
by Dragonfighter
Heartland Patriot wrote:Does anyone else here see the problem with agents needing AUTOMATIC WEAPONS (whatever those are, I do understand how the press has little understanding of firearms) to go into a GUITAR FACTORY? Don't you think their handgun/sidearm would have been enough in a case like this? If they took ARs or MP-5s, even shotguns, those weapons were taken in there SOLELY to intimidate the people in that factory. Did the Feds really think someone was going to do something to cause a shootout, that would need more than handguns, over some WOOD? <SNIP>
They were obviously fretting over it.

Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:55 pm
by waynev
Re: Guitar players, more nonsense from Obama's administratio
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:32 pm
by philip964
Besides Drudge where is the coverage?
I'll people talk about is more jobs, more jobs. Here is a company who is employing Americans and they get this.
If I was the owner I would be looking right now at moving the factory out of the US and simply importing the guitars.