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Russell wrote:I do not know if I would feel comfortable carrying a glock though with its only safety being the safe action system. I like the idea of having the grip safety and the trigger safety like my XD does. =S

Would you feel safe carrying any given double action revolver?

Russell wrote:I do not know if I would feel comfortable carrying a glock though with its only safety being the safe action system. I like the idea of having the grip safety and the trigger safety like my XD does. =S

The Glock has a trigger safety too. Where do you think the Springfield got the idea from?

Knock on wood, I've been carrying a Glock since 2000 and I have yet to "accidentally" pull the trigger. Not saying it can't happen, but if you follow the rules of gun safety then you're not likely to have a problem. My finger never touches the trigger unless I'm about to shoot it or clean it.

Kel-Tec P11, pinkie extension mandatory

Don't knock it till ya try it.

Rex

Russell wrote:I know it has the trigger safety. That's what glock calls their "Safe Action Trigger System." (atleast im pretty sure i remember reading that). ...

The trigger saftey is only one of the three which make up GLOCK's "Safe Action" system:

http://www.glock.com/english/pistols_adv01.htm

Yet people still manage to blow their own hand off when they try to clean the thing. You can't make a safety to fix stupidity. Isn't it sad that the anti nuts have pressured the manufacturers so much that they have to waste thousands of dollars on R&D to come up with new ways to keep a weapon "safe"? They will never be able to fix the real problem. They just keep throwing more switches and buttons on there in hopes that one day it will simply be impossible to fire the thing unless your standing on your head, pointing 60 degrees NW with a 25.5 degree declination and the wind is blowing from the East at 10 knots, and you push one button for all five fingers while blowing into a tube that ensures your not drunk at the time. Now that, will be a safe gun.

Good luck to ya, but a word of advice. If your going to buy a used gun, disassemble it. If you don't know how, ask the guy at the counter. You want to see everything you can before making a purchase from a pawn shop. I'm not saying they don't carry quality items, but you may find something that they didn't even know about. Never judge a book by its cover, and never buy a handgun on exterior looks alone.

I absolutely -love- going to pawnshops. other than the obvious draw of fellow scumbags to interact with, there's almost always a gun there that I haven't seen, at least since the last time I was there.
now, there are a few Pawns in my area that I have, well, not been back to.
but there's this CashAmerica that I try to hit up, least every two weeks.
now here's the deal. you're not goint to get one of those mad crazy deals, like a kimber ultra for 3 bills, but you can save quite a bit ($50 bucks or more) off the price of a new piece.
so weigh your options.

kauboy wrote:They just keep throwing more switches and buttons on there in hopes that one day it will simply be impossible to fire the thing unless your standing on your head, pointing 60 degrees NW with a 25.5 degree declination and the wind is blowing from the East at 10 knots, and you push one button for all five fingers while blowing into a tube that ensures your not drunk at the time.

Shucks! I got everything right (my head is really starting to throb), but the wind is blowing from the NW! What the heck do I do now?



On used autoloaders: one rule of thumb I have is that, if you don't personally know and trust who you're buying it from, you can never know how many rounds have gone down the pipe since it's last "30,000-mile maintenance." I'd always plan on buying new springs and replacing the existing ones before taking it out to the range. It's pretty cheap insurance, and it lets you start your own countdown so you can change springs at reliable intervals.

jbirds1210 wrote:You can have your carry gun, your new gun, and fifty more in the car if they are concealed. Not a thing to worry about.
Jason

Not only that, you can carry all of them concealed on your person if you want to.

Now I'm not longtooth by any means and I've never owned a Glock but I know
Glocks have a place on many a persons hip. If I could ever get past the looks I might try one out.

Tote 9 wrote:Now I'm not longtooth by any means and I've never owned a Glock but I know
Glocks have a place on many a persons hip. If I could ever get past the looks I might try one out. :grin:

I've used Glocks for carry since the mid 80s, and I'm here now because they work. However, a Glock is not a particurlarly good hobby gun, because there's really not much you can do with one, other than shoot it and clean it. It is probably the best survival gun, though.

For a hobby gun, I think the 1911 is the berries. There's no end to the things you can do with one in your quest for sidearm perfection. I enjoy carrying mine because of its multi-level aesthetics and general panache. It's reliable enough when it's clean and dry.

But for maximum firepower and reliability in the field, Glock is pretty much it, and I think that's why they have a place on so many hips. What's ugly to me is carrying a gun that you have to keep a logbook on to record how many malfunctions you have per box of ammo.

AV8R wrote:

Tote 9 wrote:Now I'm not longtooth by any means and I've never owned a Glock but I know
Glocks have a place on many a persons hip. If I could ever get past the looks I might try one out.

I've used Glocks for carry since the mid 80s, and I'm here now because they work. However, a Glock is not a particurlarly good hobby gun, because there's really not much you can do with one, other than shoot it and clean it. It is probably the best survival gun, though.

For a hobby gun, I think the 1911 is the berries. There's no end to the things you can do with one in your quest for sidearm perfection. I enjoy .

I am just greatful that the choices are much more than 9mm Glock and 1911. The 1911 enthusiast are the ones that have convinced me that, they are not the gun for me. Finicky and expencive . "pretty" isn't an asset for a handgun. It is meant to be concealed. The most important thing about a concealed handgun is Safety and Reliability and of course affordability. Running enough premium ammunition through these these things to get them to earn ones trust is an expensive operation.

My concern with Glocks is that there is no hammer. No single action? It also seems like its a dangerous gun and not very safe. No safety switch and pulling the trigger to disassemble makes accidental discharge opportunities. While I don't know much about Glocks, I don't think I would want to carry one of those either.

Somewhere out there there is the perfect gun, I'll find it someday.

Liberty wrote:
My concern with Glocks is ... It also seems like its a dangerous gun....

If it wasn't dangerous, I wouldn't be carrying one.