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"lock" on the Taurus PT1911

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:22 pm
by Texican_gal
Howdy ...

Does the Taurus PT1911 have an "ignition key" gun lock on it? The website says all Taurus pistols and revolvers have this ....

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:51 pm
by Mike1951
Texican_gal wrote:Does the Taurus PT1911 have an "ignition key" gun lock on it?
Yes, it does. Although I would rather it didn't, I do not consider this reason not to buy one. I simply unlocked it and stored the key in the factory box. It also contains a Series 80 type safety, although it does not appear to negatively affect the trigger.

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:43 pm
by Texican_gal
Mike1951 wrote:
Texican_gal wrote:Does the Taurus PT1911 have an "ignition key" gun lock on it?
Yes, it does. Although I would rather it didn't, I do not consider this reason not to buy one. I simply unlocked it and stored the key in the factory box. It also contains a Series 80 type safety, although it does not appear to negatively affect the trigger.
Do we understand the mechanics of this "key"? I know I've read of S&W revolvers with the key locking up (rare, but it happens). Is this one safe to ignore, or should a person disable some part of it?

Thanks :grin:

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:37 pm
by Diode
In the persuit of a cheap 1911-a1 I have been looking for a compact version of the Rock Island Arms / Armscor and so far very little out there. If any of you guys come across one please let me know!

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:38 pm
by Thane
Diode - Sarco, IIRC, has some of the officers-size Rock Island .45s.

KBCraig - I'm not sure I'd trust a Charles Daly. I've handled one of their Hi Powers, and was rather impressed, but not in a good way. Crushed and deformed roll pins, extractor ill-fitted with spring sticking out(!), and general roughness all around. I've also not heard good things about their customer service. For 500-600 dollars, I'd rather get a base Springfield or a decent Taurus. Or two Rock Island pistols, which, while rather basic, are decently well-made and priced low enough that you can justify a bit of WECSOG dremelling here and there, if necessary.

Just my $0.02

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:40 pm
by gregthehand
I have a Colt 1911 blued that is 90% condition I could let go for $450. IM me if you want to know more.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:28 am
by racer32
I have a compact Charles Daly that I confiscated from my wife after she bought a Kimber. As long as it's clean and well-lubed it runs reasonably well. Over the course of the 2-3 years we've had it it's been less than 100% reliable. However, I think that issue is due to a damaged recoil spring. It's got a bull barrel, and doesn't use standard 1911 bushing and springs, so I haven't been able to find the parts "off the shelf" to try new springs.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:45 am
by Diode
Greg , PM sent.

jim

gregthehand wrote:I have a Colt 1911 blued that is 90% condition I could let go for $450. IM me if you want to know more.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:47 am
by Diode
Thane wrote:Diode - Sarco, IIRC, has some of the officers-size Rock Island .45s.

KBCraig - I'm not sure I'd trust a Charles Daly. I've handled one of their Hi Powers, and was rather impressed, but not in a good way. Crushed and deformed roll pins, extractor ill-fitted with spring sticking out(!), and general roughness all around. I've also not heard good things about their customer service. For 500-600 dollars, I'd rather get a base Springfield or a decent Taurus. Or two Rock Island pistols, which, while rather basic, are decently well-made and priced low enough that you can justify a bit of WECSOG dremelling here and there, if necessary.

Just my $0.02
Sadly Sarco is out of stock as well. :sad: Still looking for a Officer Size 1911 to tinker with. Cheap....

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:03 am
by Diode
racer32 wrote:I have a compact Charles Daly that I confiscated from my wife after she bought a Kimber. As long as it's clean and well-lubed it runs reasonably well. Over the course of the 2-3 years we've had it it's been less than 100% reliable. However, I think that issue is due to a damaged recoil spring. It's got a bull barrel, and doesn't use standard 1911 bushing and springs, so I haven't been able to find the parts "off the shelf" to try new springs.
Well if you decide to part with it let me know. I want one to work on and yours sounds like it needs a tinkerer. :grin:

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:19 pm
by Jeremae
Diode wrote:
Jeremae wrote:I have been extremely happy with my $320 Firestorm Government model 45... In fact if you see one somewhere NIB please tell me as they don't seem to make them anymore.
Firestar or Firestorm? Firestorm is made by Bersa in Brazil I have a .380 but didnt know they made a .45 I also used ot have a Firestar 9mm and they did make a .45 but went out of business, it was a company in Spain.
It is Firestorm, the same company as the Bersa. My understanding was the parts were manufactured in spain and the guns assembled here. The Firestorm website USED to list it plus had a page that showed what parts were interchangable with standard GI (basically everything but grips and frame)

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:26 pm
by Diode
Jeremae wrote:
Diode wrote:
Jeremae wrote:I have been extremely happy with my $320 Firestorm Government model 45... In fact if you see one somewhere NIB please tell me as they don't seem to make them anymore.
Firestar or Firestorm? Firestorm is made by Bersa in Brazil I have a .380 but didnt know they made a .45 I also used ot have a Firestar 9mm and they did make a .45 but went out of business, it was a company in Spain.
It is Firestorm, the same company as the Bersa. My understanding was the parts were manufactured in spain and the guns assembled here. The Firestorm website USED to list it plus had a page that showed what parts were interchangable with standard GI (basically everything but grips and frame)
That's too cool. I have never seen one.

Re: Taurus

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:43 pm
by Roger Howard
Rex B wrote:I've heard nothing but good about the Taurus. I wasn't really wanting to spend $500 on it, but I'll sleep on that.

My other alternative is to just build one from parts. May do that regardless.
I know you can get a NEW springfield 1911 A1 for around $525. I know it's a little above what you want to spend but the quality you get will be worth it.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:48 pm
by Diode
Well I'll get you guys a range report soon, I ordered a Armscor .45 Compact
I'll know first hand it a Rock Island Arms pistol is worth the $340.00

:grin:

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:47 pm
by Jeremae
Diode

I shoot IDPA at Thunder as often as I can... will be there tonight and probably Sat.

Looks like any other 1911 with beavertail grip safety, lowered ejection port, and external extractor