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Dragonfighter wrote:

Bob Wolff wrote:If I remember my emergency management training correctly:
Only the coroner can release the name, after th next of kin have been notified.

Bob
Grand Poobah of all things Multigun at WHIDPA

That's to non-involved parties, I.E. the press and concerns making the identities public.

Doesn't an involved party have the same right to request the information once it's public information? If not, surely he has some friends.

Lambda Force wrote:

Dragonfighter wrote:

Bob Wolff wrote:If I remember my emergency management training correctly:
Only the coroner can release the name, after th next of kin have been notified.

Bob
Grand Poobah of all things Multigun at WHIDPA

That's to non-involved parties, I.E. the press and concerns making the identities public.

Doesn't an involved party have the same right to request the information once it's public information? If not, surely he has some friends.

If it's public information, the involved party doesn't need to request the information, since it's already public information.

WildBill wrote:If it's public information, the involved party doesn't need to request the information, since it's already public information.

There's lots of public information. Very little is given to me unless I request it. My request can be as simple as doing an onlince search for property tax records or as complicated as a full blown FOIA request. Either way, it's a "data pull" not a "data push" of the public information.

Lambda Force wrote:

WildBill wrote:If it's public information, the involved party doesn't need to request the information, since it's already public information.

There's lots of public information. Very little is given to me unless I request it. My request can be as simple as doing an onlince search for property tax records or as complicated as a full blown FOIA request. Either way, it's a "data pull" not a "data push" of the public information.

Nothing is given to you without some effort on your part.

Do you agree the involved party has to request the information if they want it?

JCole wrote:Wouldn't whoever was being prayed to presumably know the intruder's name?

I thought the very same thing.

Along the line of this thread, if I am the homeowner that shot the intruder is it possible or how difficult is it to keep my name and address out of the news or anyone from discovering who I am? I would like to not have to worry too much about someone's buds looking for payback.

Lambda Force wrote: Do you agree the involved party has to request the information if they want it?

My statement was directed toward the laws concerning emergency management. Requests aside, if you are involved in an incident you have the right to know the identity of all involved. Whereas the release of the names to non-involved parties (public, press, et al)is another issue. A perfect example is this, as a firefighter and paramedic I had occasion to be exposed to bodily fluids while treating and rescuing people. An exposure meant months of testing to make sure that nothing was contracted but they would refuse the disease status of the person in question and often assigned a "John Doe" type of pseudonym. This was challenged under emergency management laws and now the public safety officer has the right to the identity and diagnosis of the person that exposed them.

An off shoot of this is if you run over a person in your car, shoot them in your house or any number of other "emergency" contact situations, you cannot be denied the particulars of the other party. Requests may have to be made, but you have the right to that information.

JP171,

Your wrong about the open records act. The policy of many, many, many police departments is that if you want a copy you going to have to hire an attorney and sue them. Ask me how I know! Just because its the law doesn't mean the law is going to go along with it.

TEX wrote:Ask me how I know!

Why would you bother telling us to ask you instead of just telling us how you know?

C-dub wrote:

TEX wrote:Ask me how I know!

Why would you bother telling us to ask you instead of just telling us how you know?

I assume that was the sarcastic version of "because it happened to me."

It’s a tongue in cheek rhetorical question - and if you know the guy, you will recognize it as a Gordo saying.

TEX wrote:It’s a tongue in cheek rhetorical question - and if you know the guy, you will recognize it as a Gordo saying.

Sorry, but I couldn't stand him when I was a P1. I also didn't care much for the Old Grey Wolf or The Professor. My favorites were Jub Jub, Corby, The Sturminator, and Greggo.