ATF Idiocy: Gun makers baffled by ATF criteria

[Jumping Frog]

In their eyes, probably, yeah. In fact, won't the ATF flat-out arrest you for walking around with a pistol-length upper in one hand and a regular lower in the other? By that logic anyone who's carrying a rifle with a fixed charging handle and has access a bit of string — such as your example of the shoe lace — just needs to go to jail... forever... because they're terrorists.

And heaven help you if you have any rubber washers in your toolbox. . .

[Dave2]

In their eyes, probably, yeah. In fact, won't the ATF flat-out arrest you for walking around with a pistol-length upper in one hand and a regular lower in the other? By that logic anyone who's carrying a rifle with a fixed charging handle and has access a bit of string — such as your example of the shoe lace — just needs to go to jail... forever... because they're terrorists.

And heaven help you if you have any rubber washers in your toolbox. . .

(why?)

[RPB]

All over the interwebs
http://www.google.com/search?q=Feds+ban ... =firefox-a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Specifically:
Feds ban AK-47 look-alike
By Jessica Murphy ,Parliamentary Bureau
First posted: Thursday, January 05, 2012
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2012/01/05/f ... look-alike" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

OTTAWA -- The federal government is cracking down on a small game rifle, saying it was inappropriately classified as a non-restricted weapon.

But one firearms activist argues it's an end run by federal bureaucrats related to a long-running court battle.

<Registered> Owners of the Armi Jager AP80 .22-calibre rifle received a letter from the RCMP in December saying the registration certificates for the firearm would be revoked and they had a month to dispose of their weapons - with no compensation.

As of Dec. 20, the once legally owned gun would be classified as prohibited.

The RCMP didn't respond to media requests by press time. The force oversees gun classification through the Canadian Firearms Program.

Learn from watching our neighbors ... both North and South.

One Comment there was : "Who said the registry isn't about confiscation?"

more at link above

[Jumping Frog]

And heaven help you if you have any rubber washers in your toolbox. . .

(why?)

Not as common as it once was because suppressor designs have changed, but BATFE also ruled that since rubber washers were used as wipes in suppressors, having just the rubber washers meant illegal possession of suppressor parts. IIRC they ruled once that a person who owned a legally registered suppressor could not also possess the wipes, and then they reversed themselves on that decision too. Anyway, it is basically another example of BATFE idiocy.

[rm9792]

In their eyes, probably, yeah. In fact, won't the ATF flat-out arrest you for walking around with a pistol-length upper in one hand and a regular lower in the other? By that logic anyone who's carrying a rifle with a fixed charging handle and has access a bitC of string — such as your example of the shoe lace — just needs to go to jail... forever... because they're terrorists.

And heaven help you if you have any rubber washers in your toolbox. . .

(why?)

Because flat washers are great baffles for a homemade suppressor. I used thick flat washers to make my first one and they are pretty effective at both 9 mm and .22.

[Bullwhip]

Remember that bump fire stock somebody made a few years ago? It wasn't a firearm, just a stock, so no need for any ATF ruling. But just to be safe he sent it to them anyway, they approved it said it was legal. He just got started selling them good a few months later and ATF changed their minds, made him destroy all his stock and give them his customer list so they could warn people they owned an illegal machine gun.

[rm9792]

I think that was for the 10-22. The atkins accelerator was a bogus case as the trigger still fired one shot per pull. I can't believe it was never overturned.

[OldCannon]

Remember that bump fire stock somebody made a few years ago? It wasn't a firearm, just a stock, so no need for any ATF ruling. But just to be safe he sent it to them anyway, they approved it said it was legal. He just got started selling them good a few months later and ATF changed their minds, made him destroy all his stock and give them his customer list so they could warn people they owned an illegal machine gun.

Still perfectly legit for AR-15 and AK-47: http://www.slidefiresolutions.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Jumping Frog]

Still perfectly legit for AR-15 and AK-47: http://www.slidefiresolutions.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Until the ATF changes their mind again. . . and forces the manufacturer to scrap the entire value of their inventory.