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jareknyc wrote: if someone is driving very close to you, and it almost looks like he will try to hit your car for what ever reason, drunk or not, don't care, but you can clearly say that he is doing it intentionally, you don't know if he want to hurt you or not, i guess he is using his car as a weapon, can you use your gun for that..

Sir,
All you questions about "Can I shoot" give the impression that you are looking for an opportunity rather than trying to not use your weapon. This last yarn is in not even a likely occurance.

Do you mind telling us where you are posting from & what city you took your CHL class in?

NYC perhaps?

May just be a good thought.

Mods await an answer.

...I think we have us a d-Con moment...

Thanks guys...good night...

snatchel wrote:

speedsix wrote:...now I've learned my somethin' for today...thanks, Thomas...I often google and get referred to a thread, but didn't know how to do what you just taught...this place is a LIBRARY of do's AND DON'Ts!!!

Ditto. This is great!

+1...thanks Thomas, that's pure greatness for sure!

Y'all are all welcome! Glad I could help.

Good job Mods! That action should be used more often in cases like this thread.

For Anyone reading this thread later questioning "When X is justified/justifiable" (X being a hypothetical situation)

read

PENAL CODE

TITLE 2. GENERAL PRINCIPLES OF CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY

CHAPTER 9. JUSTIFICATION EXCLUDING CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY

SUBCHAPTER A. GENERAL PROVISIONS

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/d ... m/PE.9.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is it possible this guy took that 1hr online class? Try to remember that violence is rarely the best option, if you can avoid drawing your weapon DO. (The cost is very high)

PS: Don't hesitate if the time comes, none of this warning shot stuff.

That 1hr online class is not for a TX CHL. It is for another State's license that you must already have a TX CHL in order to qualify to get the license that is good for TX (a backup).

It is more possible that the guy is just a TROLL......

AEA wrote:It is more possible that the guy is just a TROLL......

His only posts were in this thread.

Teamless wrote:....remember, even DRAWING your weapon is "using" deadly force.

Respectfully, I would have to disagree.

Sec. 9.04. THREATS AS JUSTIFIABLE FORCE. The threat of force is justified when the use of force is justified by this chapter. For purposes of this section, a threat to cause death or serious bodily injury by the production of a weapon or otherwise, as long as the actor's purpose is limited to creating an apprehension that he will use deadly force if necessary, does not constitute the use of deadly force.

sugar land dave wrote:Respectfully, I would have to disagree.

With your quote of the actual law, I would agree with you, but the reason for my stating that it "IS" deadly force is the following scenario

(i personally do would not be the initial drawing CHL in this situation, but this is just one of many situations that come to mind)

I "think" you are going to harm me, because you are running up to me from a distance and I 'think' you have the demeanor of something bad in mind. I tell you to stop, you don't comply (because you don't seem to understand that I am talking to you), don't understand (because you don't speak or comprehend English), or don't hear me because you are deaf.

you are 'actually' not running to me, but to someone right behind me, and maybe your 'scowl-look'' is normal and I perceive I am in danger.
Anyway, I draw my weapon because of the perceived threat

As soon as I draw, the person running at me, thinks that I am now confronting them, then they draw their weapon (as they are law abiding CHL holder as well) and shoot to defend themselves or protect themselves.
My actions made their actions justified as deadly force was used against them.

Obvious anti troll.