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In the above link, I'm not seeing a link to the video from my phone.

Did you see how the driver shot? He reached around a shot behind him through the window. I can't believe he managed to hit the guy. That was incredible shootin' ...

It is embedded in the page, so your phone may not be displaying it.

And, he didn't hit the guy; he did the old western movie trick of shooting through the guys cowboy hat.

PappaGun wrote:A tow truck driver used his "Lisenced handgun" to shoot a person whose wehicle he was towing when the man confronted him.

I am holding out hope that it does not really mean concealed handgun lisence holder, but it does not look good.

The "journalist" twice refers to "lisenced handgun".



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A friend points out that some states have a "license to carry" but we have a "concealed handgun license" in Texas, so we shouldn't fault people who think the gun is licensed like the name says.

I guess it is worth pointing out that CHL or not, he was inside a vehicle that was under his control.

As for the beer bottle, I highly doubt the man was pulling a beer bottle out of his jacket as he ran toward the truck. I also highly doubt that the gun he supposedly had would still be on him when the police showed up, especially with his apartment only a few feet away.

Heartland Patriot wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:Ignorance in the media about licensing/registration is simply breath-taking. Sadly, that ignorance gets communicated to the public. An acquaintance at church last week told me that he had inherited a lever action rifle which was registered to his grandfather. When I told him there is no such thing as gun registration in Texas, he was confused. "Are you sure? I mean, he bought the gun. Wouldn't it be registered?" Even after I explained the legalities to him, he was shocked that it might be so, and still not sure whether or not to believe me. I let the matter drop. You can't fix ignorance with the willfully ignorant.

[My following question is serious, not baiting anyone or meant to disparage anyone, I promise.]

Was the person with the lever-action you tried to explain this to FROM Texas, or from some other state where firearms are required to be registered? I am convinced that one of the reasons we continuously hear that sort of thing from the "entertainment industry" is that most of the programs are made in California (which has some registration) and New York (which has a LOT of registration). That is the sort of thing that worries me with so many people coming into Texas so rapidly, is that they will bring those ideas here and "infect" the way we do business in Texas...I HATED the gun laws in California, and it seems like the ones in New York are worse, perhaps way worse.

As someone who has worked in the Hollywood TV and film industry and currently still works in the entertainment industry I feel qualified to answer your question...

In the entertainment world (MSM included) there are 3 maybe 4 cities in the country. In order... New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and maybe Chicago. Everything else is "Indian Territory". If you are not living in those cities then you are a hick rube unless you have "made it" in which case you can live wherever you want and commute to one of those 4 cities when you need to work. Europe is where you go to play and get away from work or if you can't stomach the thought of living on a ranch in Montana and having to interact with "people". Everything in television and film is from the New York and Los Angeles persepctive. They don't go anywhere else or think anywhere else is worth going to. New York is the pinacle of snobbery and there is a pecking order of class distinction based on what city you hail from...remember there are only 4 cities though...

I recently had a lighting designer from New York try to explain to me what a Kosher dill was because lordy me us poor Texas rubes couldn't possibly have any idear about what them there cultered yankee's are like. I usually let the touring guys make complete idiots of themselves before I tell them I'm from Los Angeles at which point they realize what pompous morons they've been being. This doesn't work with someone from New York since they are higher in the caste system though. Work in entertainment and Bloombergs holier than thou attitude makes perfect sense and is completely predictable. <end rant>

I never really did fit in to those cities or enviornments. I strive everyday to be less and less Los Angeles like and embrace my new home state...

bayouhazard wrote:

PappaGun wrote:A tow truck driver used his "Lisenced handgun" to shoot a person whose wehicle he was towing when the man confronted him.

I am holding out hope that it does not really mean concealed handgun lisence holder, but it does not look good.

The "journalist" twice refers to "lisenced handgun".



http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/archive ... of-im.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A friend points out that some states have a "license to carry" but we have a "concealed handgun license" in Texas, so we shouldn't fault people who think the gun is licensed like the name says.

Except that this journalist is working in Texas and writing for a Texas market, more specifically Dallas. He should be better versed in the specifics and have better knowledge of his own state's laws and be able to communicate that more clearly, to say nothing of his editor. Who cares what the other 49's are? He is not writing for them. Lisence to carry does not sound to me at all like "lisenced handgun".

olafpfj wrote:

Heartland Patriot wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:Ignorance in the media about licensing/registration is simply breath-taking. Sadly, that ignorance gets communicated to the public. An acquaintance at church last week told me that he had inherited a lever action rifle which was registered to his grandfather. When I told him there is no such thing as gun registration in Texas, he was confused. "Are you sure? I mean, he bought the gun. Wouldn't it be registered?" Even after I explained the legalities to him, he was shocked that it might be so, and still not sure whether or not to believe me. I let the matter drop. You can't fix ignorance with the willfully ignorant.

[My following question is serious, not baiting anyone or meant to disparage anyone, I promise.]

Was the person with the lever-action you tried to explain this to FROM Texas, or from some other state where firearms are required to be registered? I am convinced that one of the reasons we continuously hear that sort of thing from the "entertainment industry" is that most of the programs are made in California (which has some registration) and New York (which has a LOT of registration). That is the sort of thing that worries me with so many people coming into Texas so rapidly, is that they will bring those ideas here and "infect" the way we do business in Texas...I HATED the gun laws in California, and it seems like the ones in New York are worse, perhaps way worse.

As someone who has worked in the Hollywood TV and film industry and currently still works in the entertainment industry I feel qualified to answer your question...

In the entertainment world (MSM included) there are 3 maybe 4 cities in the country. In order... New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and maybe Chicago. Everything else is "Indian Territory". If you are not living in those cities then you are a hick rube unless you have "made it" in which case you can live wherever you want and commute to one of those 4 cities when you need to work. Europe is where you go to play and get away from work or if you can't stomach the thought of living on a ranch in Montana and having to interact with "people". Everything in television and film is from the New York and Los Angeles persepctive. They don't go anywhere else or think anywhere else is worth going to. New York is the pinacle of snobbery and there is a pecking order of class distinction based on what city you hail from...remember there are only 4 cities though...

I recently had a lighting designer from New York try to explain to me what a Kosher dill was because lordy me us poor Texas rubes couldn't possibly have any idear about what them there cultered yankee's are like. I usually let the touring guys make complete idiots of themselves before I tell them I'm from Los Angeles at which point they realize what pompous morons they've been being. This doesn't work with someone from New York since they are higher in the caste system though. Work in entertainment and Bloombergs holier than thou attitude makes perfect sense and is completely predictable. <end rant>

I never really did fit in to those cities or enviornments. I strive everyday to be less and less Los Angeles like and embrace my new home state...

Thank you for the reply to my question. I feel vindicated, not that it makes me feel any better though. As someone with teenagers, I have always tried to raise them to understand stuff like this because I don't want to send them off into the world being naive. At least I know I've been getting it close to right. And as someone who lived in California for 10 years during two 5 year assignments (north of Sac during one assignment and west of Sac during the other) courtesy of the USAF, I understand that there are some good people in that state...they simply get over-ruled by LA and the Bay Area...I'm glad to be back in Texas after so long being gone, and I'm more than happy to have guys like you and TAM here...it would be awesome if we could take in the good people and keep out the "riff-raff"...nothing but wishful thinking, though.

The whole business of towing in such scenarios is a racket, and as far as I'm concerned, the drivers have it coming.

rp_photo wrote:The whole business of towing in such scenarios is a racket, and as far as I'm concerned, the drivers have it coming.

Excuse me? How does a driver that is just doing his job by legally repossesing a vehicle 'have it coming'? Suggesting that is advocating illegal activity and against forum rules.

Keith B wrote:

rp_photo wrote:The whole business of towing in such scenarios is a racket, and as far as I'm concerned, the drivers have it coming.

Excuse me? How does a driver that is just doing his job by legally repossesing a vehicle 'have it coming'? Suggesting that is advocating illegal activity and against forum rules.

I agree with you as far a reposession, but even then there is a dangerous conflict with Texas property law when it involves taking a vehicle at night. A shooter could rightfully (or dishonestly) claim that they thought a theft was in progress. Say that the wife had been making car payments and had fallen behind but the husband who came across the wrecker had no clue.

I had thought this was about a private property towing, of which I was referring to.

In my opinion, this practice is often abused and borders on legal theft and extrortion. Unless a vehicle is truly blocking access or creating a hazard, the car owner should be hit only with the same ticket or "orange sticker" they would get in a public area. And many drivers hide in wait ready to strike, even if it's the empty lot of a closed business on a Sunday morning. If you ask me, it takes a certain type of lowlife to make a living that way.

It could also be argued that this practice puts people in danger by leaving them stranded in bad areas,

I have met a few tow drivers and all of them were sleezy. I hate how they think they are allowed to do 80+ on the freeway, even when crowded and 60+ on city streets to get somewhere. I block them every chance I get, they are hardly life and death vehicles. I do believe if you dont pay your bills then your vehicle should get repossessed but not like a sneak thief in the night or while you are working. Why cant they get an offduty officer to go with them and be upfront about it? Cheap companies are the only reason. Who is gonna fight a repo when there is a uniformed officer right there? Banks hire them to sit all day long then so can a repo company.

This is not relavent to the OP, but last week there was a car crash in front of my workplace. There were only two cars involved, but eight tow trucks lined up on the street and waited for about two hours while the accident was cleared up. Finally one of the sheriffs, asked the tow truck drivers which one had the contract for Houston. One guy raised his hand. The sheriff told the others to get the heck out of there.

WildBill wrote:This is not relavent to the OP, but last week there was a car crash in front of my workplace. There were only two cars involved, but eight tow trucks lined up on the street and waited for about two hours while the accident was cleared up. Finally one of the sheriffs, asked the tow truck drivers which one had the contract for Houston. One guy raised his hand. The sheriff told the others to get the heck out of there.

It would seem to me that low bidder should get the job.

According to the story "pulled over and began arguing".

Right there he is wrong.He was in the truck, should have kept driving. But since the idiot did stop (excercising his right to be a complete idiot), he still had the right to defend himself if attacked.