Rainy days and Mondays!

[speedsix]

...this little one, gone also in her 30s to cancer...is my second favorite...Youtube has almost all of hers...blues,classics...she could do it all...her voice is unique and haunting... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEBBGSgO16M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGIwqU_M ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Oldgringo]

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What ever happened to popular music that really has a tune and lyrics that were easy to understand? Karen Carpenter's throaty style was something else that has never appeared again.

When the the Beatles came to America is the day the music died.

[MoJo]

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What ever happened to popular music that really has a tune and lyrics that were easy to understand? Karen Carpenter's throaty style was something else that has never appeared again.

When the the Beatles came to America is the day the music died.

No when Buddy Holley, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper were killed is the day the music died.

[Heartland Patriot]

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What ever happened to popular music that really has a tune and lyrics that were easy to understand? Karen Carpenter's throaty style was something else that has never appeared again.

When the the Beatles came to America is the day the music died.

I've actually listened to a LOT of different music styles over the years...country, rock, blues, R&B, even a little of the older rap when I was a young, single man in the military and going to parties...but the item for me that RUINED music, of all types, is when they began to use computers to RECORD...before computer recording (and editing) the musicians had to PRACTICE...they had to have some sort of a sound to start with...they usually started someplace small and worked their way up through bigger and bigger venues until they developed a following and got noticed. The studio engineers could clean up certain mistakes but only if they were big ones...lots of little things that make music REAL went into the recordings. BUT, by using computers, the people making music are no longer the "musicians"...its the studio engineers...they take somebody (or somebodies) with a certain look or mannerisms and get them to throw some stuff together...which the engineer then "cleans up" with the computer...so the "artist" doesn't have to know how to play or sing, doesn't have to practice and all they have to do is be a "style" to attract KIDS, and kids only. Popular music has long been about capturing the youth market, but at least before computers, there had to be some kind of talent to it. The music today sounds so fake and cheesy. I love computers for many reasons...but I HATE them for what they enabled the music industry to do to music...no matter what type you are talking about. You would be surprised at how many kids these days listen to older music because even they can hear through the bull manure being spewed out by the music industry these days.

[Oldgringo]

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What ever happened to popular music that really has a tune and lyrics that were easy to understand? Karen Carpenter's throaty style was something else that has never appeared again.

When the the Beatles came to America is the day the music died.

No when Buddy Holley, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper were killed is the day the music died.

That's the name of a song and I do remember that day...vaguely. I stand by my previous statement about the Limey invasion. I don't care much for this gansta rap crap or computer noise either.

[Kythas]

...gas was 29.9 then...and I got mad and changed stations when they went up to 31.9...oh, for those days...'course I was policing for $500 a month...gross pay...

My first policing job (in 1992) had a starting pay of $13,800/yr. That came out to $880 per month net. Gas was 89.9 then and I had an apartment that was $320/mo.

I now make almost ten times that amount and still seem to have the same disposable income as I had back then. Things that make you go Hmmmm.....

[JJVP]

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What ever happened to popular music that really has a tune and lyrics that were easy to understand? Karen Carpenter's throaty style was something else that has never appeared again.

When the the Beatles came to America is the day the music died.

No when Buddy Holley, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper were killed is the day the music died.

That's the name of a song and I do remember that day...vaguely. I stand by my previous statement about the Limey invasion. I don't care much for this gansta rap crap or computer noise either.

Actually the name of the song is American Pie by Don McLean

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=uAsV5-Hv-7U[/youtube]

[chasfm11]

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What ever happened to popular music that really has a tune and lyrics that were easy to understand? Karen Carpenter's throaty style was something else that has never appeared again.

When the the Beatles came to America is the day the music died.

I've actually listened to a LOT of different music styles over the years...country, rock, blues, R&B, even a little of the older rap when I was a young, single man in the military and going to parties...but the item for me that RUINED music, of all types, is when they began to use computers to RECORD...before computer recording (and editing) the musicians had to PRACTICE...they had to have some sort of a sound to start with...they usually started someplace small and worked their way up through bigger and bigger venues until they developed a following and got noticed. The studio engineers could clean up certain mistakes but only if they were big ones...lots of little things that make music REAL went into the recordings. BUT, by using computers, the people making music are no longer the "musicians"...its the studio engineers...they take somebody (or somebodies) with a certain look or mannerisms and get them to throw some stuff together...which the engineer then "cleans up" with the computer...so the "artist" doesn't have to know how to play or sing, doesn't have to practice and all they have to do is be a "style" to attract KIDS, and kids only. Popular music has long been about capturing the youth market, but at least before computers, there had to be some kind of talent to it. The music today sounds so fake and cheesy. I love computers for many reasons...but I HATE them for what they enabled the music industry to do to music...no matter what type you are talking about. You would be surprised at how many kids these days listen to older music because even they can hear through the bull manure being spewed out by the music industry these days.

Actually, I think that there are talented musicians around today. Taylor Swift is one of them. I'm just not a big fan of her style. I agree that the kids tend to like the musical equivalent of junk but that seems to be a lot more about teen (and pre-teen) rebellion than about the actual musical style. It is the musical crowd that the rebellious hoards chase that seem to be the benefactors of computerized help. I haven't run into many kids that are hooked on older music. And when you say "older", how far back does it go? 90s?, 80s?, 70s? When I was in my rebellious yut, I remember listening to my parents 78s because that was all I had. We were too poor for me to be able to buy 45s with the latest music on them and we lacked a machine that would play them anyway.

Assuming that they are actually playing everything, the Trans Siberian Orchestra is another example of some great talent. The keyboard players alone show technical prowess that is hard to come by. The fiddle and guitars are right up there, too. Again, I'm just not a fan of some of the music that they play.

I've played the Carpenters "Rainy Days and Mondays" three times already today. I feel at least a couple more times are needed.

[Oldgringo]

{snip}

What ever happened to popular music that really has a tune and lyrics that were easy to understand? Karen Carpenter's throaty style was something else that has never appeared again.

When the the Beatles came to America is the day the music died.

No when Buddy Holley, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper were killed is the day the music died.

That's the name of a song and I do remember that day...vaguely. I stand by my previous statement about the Limey invasion. I don't care much for this gansta rap crap or computer noise either.

Actually the name of the song is American Pie by Don McLean

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=uAsV5-Hv-7U[/youtube]

That's right and thank you. I think that I'll take my Dodge Ram to the levee...

[Lambda Force]

...gas was 29.9 then...and I got mad and changed stations when they went up to 31.9...oh, for those days...'course I was policing for $500 a month...gross pay...

We weren't far off. My first year teacher's pay was $533 gross per month. I remember paying $.35per gallon in that time

Now gas is 10 times that and a $5000/month salary isn't bad these days. It's even better if you get a sweatheart pension after a mere 20 years of work. Including benefits, a package like that is probably better than most college graduates earn in the private sector.

[Tallinthesaddle]

Years ago I met a guy who asked me, "what is the best day of the week"? Of course I said Friday. But then he said, no, no, it is Tuesday since you are a week away from Monday! OKOK

[Heartland Patriot]

{snip}

What ever happened to popular music that really has a tune and lyrics that were easy to understand? Karen Carpenter's throaty style was something else that has never appeared again.

When the the Beatles came to America is the day the music died.

I've actually listened to a LOT of different music styles over the years...country, rock, blues, R&B, even a little of the older rap when I was a young, single man in the military and going to parties...but the item for me that RUINED music, of all types, is when they began to use computers to RECORD...before computer recording (and editing) the musicians had to PRACTICE...they had to have some sort of a sound to start with...they usually started someplace small and worked their way up through bigger and bigger venues until they developed a following and got noticed. The studio engineers could clean up certain mistakes but only if they were big ones...lots of little things that make music REAL went into the recordings. BUT, by using computers, the people making music are no longer the "musicians"...its the studio engineers...they take somebody (or somebodies) with a certain look or mannerisms and get them to throw some stuff together...which the engineer then "cleans up" with the computer...so the "artist" doesn't have to know how to play or sing, doesn't have to practice and all they have to do is be a "style" to attract KIDS, and kids only. Popular music has long been about capturing the youth market, but at least before computers, there had to be some kind of talent to it. The music today sounds so fake and cheesy. I love computers for many reasons...but I HATE them for what they enabled the music industry to do to music...no matter what type you are talking about. You would be surprised at how many kids these days listen to older music because even they can hear through the bull manure being spewed out by the music industry these days.

Actually, I think that there are talented musicians around today. Taylor Swift is one of them. I'm just not a big fan of her style. I agree that the kids tend to like the musical equivalent of junk but that seems to be a lot more about teen (and pre-teen) rebellion than about the actual musical style. It is the musical crowd that the rebellious hoards chase that seem to be the benefactors of computerized help. I haven't run into many kids that are hooked on older music. And when you say "older", how far back does it go? 90s?, 80s?, 70s? When I was in my rebellious yut, I remember listening to my parents 78s because that was all I had. We were too poor for me to be able to buy 45s with the latest music on them and we lacked a machine that would play them anyway.

Assuming that they are actually playing everything, the Trans Siberian Orchestra is another example of some great talent. The keyboard players alone show technical prowess that is hard to come by. The fiddle and guitars are right up there, too. Again, I'm just not a fan of some of the music that they play.

I've played the Carpenters "Rainy Days and Mondays" three times already today. I feel at least a couple more times are needed.

The thing is, I wasn't talking about styles of music. I'm talking about QUALITY of music. I'm sure you know what lip-syncing is. A lot of "live" concerts these days are nothing but lip-syncing. And when I was talking about kids listening to older music, I was talking about kids who listen to music going back to the 60s, even. You would be surprised at how many kids like the Beatles (even if oldgringo has no use for them ), for instance. Kids have access, through the internet, to as much music as you can imagine...and yet they still like bands such as Led Zeppelin, for another example. A LOT of kids HATE that Justin Bieber, despite how much he gets pumped up by the media and entertainment industry. Playing music, like shooting, is about practice. It is NOT about how cool the gear is...we all love cool gear, but it doesn't MAKE you a good shooter or a good musician. Glad you are enjoying the Carpenters...seem like folks who put effort into making music. So, ask yourself: are you listening to it just because its something from the past times, or because it sounds good? (And both is okay, too. )