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Re: Verbal OK in 30.06 location
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:29 pm
by KD5NRH
WildBill wrote:Unless it's written or recorded on tape, it's a "he said, she said" case.
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Re: Verbal OK in 30.06 location
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:32 pm
by WildBill
KD5NRH wrote:WildBill wrote:Unless it's written or recorded on tape, it's a "he said, she said" case.
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http://www.gadgettown.com/4GB-USB-Flash ... 06147.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There are quite a few more on the site. I have the second one, and it does a great job from inside a shirt pocket, though the biggest advantage is that you really don't need to hide it. As a bonus, it's dead simple to operate; turn it on with headphones plugged in and it's an MP3 player, turn it on without headphones and it starts recording. I accidentally discovered it can record for 9 hours on a charge, too.
I got to get me one/or two of these!
Re: Verbal OK in 30.06 location
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:26 pm
by wharvey
You may already have a recording device. I can set my phone to record. Just start the recorder before going some where are doing something you think you may need a record of what happened. You can always delete it afterwards if you decide you don't need to keep it going. Most of the so called "smart phones" most of us carry can record several hours without a problem. Even my older non-smart phones could do that.
Re: Verbal OK in 30.06 location
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:21 pm
by WildBill
WildBill wrote:KD5NRH wrote:WildBill wrote:Unless it's written or recorded on tape, it's a "he said, she said" case.
http://www.gadgettown.com/4GB-Digital-V ... 03032.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.gadgettown.com/4GB-USB-Flash ... 06147.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There are quite a few more on the site. I have the second one, and it does a great job from inside a shirt pocket, though the biggest advantage is that you really don't need to hide it. As a bonus, it's dead simple to operate; turn it on with headphones plugged in and it's an MP3 player, turn it on without headphones and it starts recording. I accidentally discovered it can record for 9 hours on a charge, too.
I got to get me one/or two of these!
Maybe not.
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Re: Verbal OK in 30.06 location
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:48 pm
by C-dub
Katygunnut wrote:This came up in another thread regarding gun retailers (typically pawn shops) that post their property with a 30.06 sign.
If an employee hands you a gun you bought while you are in the store, then you would be in violation of 30.06 since the sign is posted (assuming you are also a CHL). However, the general consensus seemed to be that the employee was giving you effective consent to carry since they knowingly handed you a concealed handgun (in the gun case). Some people felt that the "implied consent" was limited to only the specific gun they handed you and only if carried in the exact manner / case in which it was given to you, and also expired at the end of that day. I don't think that anyone addressed the angle of whether the employee handing you the gun needed to be "in control of the property".
The point being that even if you get implied consent, there can be implied limitations on that consent.
IMHO, if there were any legal truth to this whatsoever, no one without a CHL would ever be able to buy a gun without being in violation of this and the same would go for a store that sells guns that is also 30.06 posted. I just don't think a case like this would ever make it to a courtroom unless it were the purchaser suing the store for attempting such nonsense and wasting my time and money to defend myself.
Re: Verbal OK in 30.06 location
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:17 am
by rwg3
Also, if you are in the pawnshop and the clerk lets you handle a weapon, how would they know you were a CHL, unless you told them? I doubt that I would say anything until I decided to purchase it, and not until they were processing the paperwork. Then the sale should serve, I believe, as consent. On the other hand I'm not a lawyer.
Re: Verbal OK in 30.06 location
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:37 pm
by FuziDave
wharvey wrote:You may already have a recording device. I can set my phone to record. Just start the recorder before going some where are doing something you think you may need a record of what happened. You can always delete it afterwards if you decide you don't need to keep it going. Most of the so called "smart phones" most of us carry can record several hours without a problem. Even my older non-smart phones could do that.
the iPhone has a voice memo app. afterwords you can trim it and even email it to yourself. it will also synch with iTunes so you'll have an mp3 copy on your computer too.