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Re: Bears vs Humans

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:06 pm
by WildBill
C-dub wrote:If I am backpacking and able to kill the bear before it eats me, why in the world would I want to or have to skin it?
I guess they don't want to waste their natural resources. Animals killed in the defense of people or property belong to the state.

Alaska laws states that you must salvage the hide and skull of a bear that you kill in self defense and it must be removed from the carcass.

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/regul ... mplete.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Bears vs Humans

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:25 pm
by C-dub
WildBill wrote:
C-dub wrote:If I am backpacking and able to kill the bear before it eats me, why in the world would I want to or have to skin it?
I guess they don't want to waste their natural resources. Animals killed in the defense of people or property belong to the state.

Alaska laws states that you must salvage the hide and skull of a bear that you kill in self defense and it must be removed from the carcass.

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/regul ... mplete.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We've read some really dumb things from our federal gooberment lately and now we can add this one to the pile. OMG!!! :shock:

Re: Bears vs Humans

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:32 pm
by WildBill
C-dub wrote:
WildBill wrote:
C-dub wrote:If I am backpacking and able to kill the bear before it eats me, why in the world would I want to or have to skin it?
I guess they don't want to waste their natural resources. Animals killed in the defense of people or property belong to the state.

Alaska laws states that you must salvage the hide and skull of a bear that you kill in self defense and it must be removed from the carcass.

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/regul ... mplete.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We've read some really dumb things from our federal gooberment lately and now we can add this one to the pile. OMG!!! :shock:
If I ever had the misfortune to kill a bear in self-defense, I would have to hire a guide to skin it for me. ;-)

Re: Bears vs Humans

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:51 pm
by CC Italian
I always go camping/hiking out west at least twice a year and though bears are what always comes to peoples minds they are not what I am worried about the most. Criminals, snakes, foxes, lighting strikes, mountain lions I believe in that order are still the number one threat for most. Also, like you talked about I always bring bear mace! It will be more effective to stop an attack quickly! It saved Jack Hannah’s life in Glacier if I remember correctly. Park rangers always told me it is more effective then pretty much any handgun when seconds count.

I remember seeing several years back one of those I Can't believe I survived episodes about a man up in the northwest, Alaska or Canada, can't remember was mauled by a big grizzly while moose hunting. Needless to say the bear tore half his face off and the bear was shot at close range with a .270 if I remember correctly. The authorities found the bear dead only a few hundred feet from where the man shot him.

So the .270 killed the bear but not before the man was half mauled to death. Just think about how long it takes a bear to bleed out! I assume it is really hard to hit a charging bear with a hot loaded .44mag more then once or twice if at all before it gets to you.

Just be prepared the best you can! Your in their backyard and boo boo might not like that.

Edit: Personally I would feel under gunned with pretty much all handguns and a charging grizzly bear. I would want a semi auto FAL or M1A ready to go. Or maybe even an old Browning M1918 BAR! "rlol"

Re: Bears vs Humans

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:33 am
by jmra
Well, with my always loaded glock i will not have to worry about "a jammed gun" (thousands of rounds without issue). Shoot often and well enough that I think I should be able to hit something the size of a bear running straight at me so not worried about "a missed shot". No external safety so "a safety mechanism that couldn't be unlocked in time" is not a concern. And finally, I have no issue with killing a bear to save my own hide.

Now if someone made bullets that dispersed pepper spray on contact...

Re: Bears vs Humans

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:04 am
by old farmer
C-dub wrote:
WildBill wrote:
C-dub wrote:If I am backpacking and able to kill the bear before it eats me, why in the world would I want to or have to skin it?
I guess they don't want to waste their natural resources. Animals killed in the defense of people or property belong to the state.

Alaska laws states that you must salvage the hide and skull of a bear that you kill in self defense and it must be removed from the carcass.

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/regul ... mplete.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We've read some really dumb things from our federal gooberment lately and now we can add this one to the pile. OMG!!! :shock:
Were else can the president get a bear rug to give to friends. :patriot: "rlol"

Re: Bears vs Humans

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:22 pm
by flintknapper
Two rules to follow when in bear country:

1. Always take a friend/other person.

2. Make sure your friend/other person is slower than you. You'll be fine. ;-)

Re: Bears vs Humans

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:00 pm
by stroo
A friend and I went hiking in Glacier long,long ago when I was in college. Those bells we put on just about drove me crazy. We took them off after the first day. Thankfully we never saw any bears.

Re: Bears vs Humans

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:11 am
by 7075-T7
The problem with bear spray, is that if you're upwind of the bear when you use it, it just ends up seasoning you.





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Re: Bears vs Humans

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:51 am
by speedsix
:lol: :thumbs2: