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Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:33 pm
by Oldgringo
Beiruty wrote:Oldgringo wrote:texasmusic wrote:The rest of the world likes take brakes every once in a while. (Peacetime)
Thank you,
texasmusic, for the clarification. Yes, other nations, operative word "nations", do take a break from killing each other from time to time.
The Arabic/Muslim tribes just seem to keep killin' each other as if they're driven by some higher power to wipe each other out. Who are we infidels to question the will of Allah?
Old Gringo, don't fall in the trap of Stereotyping. We are all human beings and we do behave similarly. Good thing, WWI and WW2 were not started by Muslims.
And, Allah Akbar too! God's Will is supreme over all other wills.
With all due respect to you and your family....

Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:39 pm
by G26ster
Oldgringo wrote:G26ster wrote:Oldgringo wrote:texasmusic wrote:The rest of the world likes take brakes every once in a while. (Peacetime)
Thank you,
texasmusic, for the clarification. Yes, other nations, operative word "nations", do take a break from killing each other from time to time.
The Arabic/Muslim tribes just seem to keep killin' each other as if they're driven by some higher power to wipe each other out. Who are we infidels to question the will of Allah?
Other than the Iran/Iraq war and the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait (and other than the desire to keep attacking Israel - a non-muslim state), what Arab
nations have been at war with each other since WWII?
A bigger question is what Arab "nations" have been/are at war against the U.S. I really don't care what they do to each other as long as they stay in their own yard while doing it.
You started off by telling us they've been killing
each other since the dawn of time. Now you switch to
"at war against the U.S." My point was that nations/tribes all over the globe have been killing each other regularly since the dawn of time. My post had nothing to do with attacks against us. Those attacks will be, and have been, defended against and paid for, and we will continue to do so. My only point, which was echoed I believe by Beruity, was that we are all human and these conflicts are not unique to any one region of humanity.
Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:47 pm
by jmra
Beruity,
I agree with you. Just read an article that Isreal received permission to use runways of a country on Iran's border but the White House leaked the information which has compromised Israel's plans.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03 ... long-iran/
Looks to me like Isreal is tired of waiting.
Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:09 pm
by FishInTx
G26ster wrote: we are all human and these conflicts are not unique to any one region of humanity.
Haven't most conflicts, wars, been about power, resources or political ideals and not religion? I know about the crusades but any others? I'll admit I'm not very book smart but it seems that muslims are killing muslims and most anybody else because of what God tells them or because somebody else doesn't see God the same way they do.? I would say these conflicts in todays age are unique. They don't want to wipe Israel off the map or "take out the Big Satan" because of our natural resources. But because of what Allah tells them to.
Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:11 pm
by The Annoyed Man
jmra wrote:Beruity,
I agree with you. Just read an article that Isreal received permission to use runways of a country on Iran's border but
the White House leaked the information which has compromised Israel's plans.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03 ... long-iran/
Looks to me like Isreal is tired of waiting.
Why am I not surprised? These are dangerous children in the white house.
Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:15 pm
by jmra
The Annoyed Man wrote:jmra wrote:Beruity,
I agree with you. Just read an article that Isreal received permission to use runways of a country on Iran's border but
the White House leaked the information which has compromised Israel's plans.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03 ... long-iran/
Looks to me like Isreal is tired of waiting.
Why am I not surprised? These are dangerous children in the white house.
I believe Obama wants the attack to happen closer to the election (just before the election if he is trailing in the polls or after the election if he has a comfortable lead).
Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:28 pm
by Oldgringo
G26ster wrote:Oldgringo wrote:G26ster wrote:Oldgringo wrote:texasmusic wrote:The rest of the world likes take brakes every once in a while. (Peacetime)
Thank you,
texasmusic, for the clarification. Yes, other nations, operative word "nations", do take a break from killing each other from time to time.
The Arabic/Muslim tribes just seem to keep killin' each other as if they're driven by some higher power to wipe each other out. Who are we infidels to question the will of Allah?
Other than the Iran/Iraq war and the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait (and other than the desire to keep attacking Israel - a non-muslim state), what Arab
nations have been at war with each other since WWII?
A bigger question is what Arab "nations" have been/are at war against the U.S. I really don't care what they do to each other as long as they stay in their own yard while doing it.
You started off by telling us they've been killing
each other since the dawn of time. Now you switch to
"at war against the U.S." My point was that nations/tribes all over the globe have been killing each other regularly since the dawn of time. My post had nothing to do with attacks against us. Those attacks will be, and have been, defended against and paid for, and we will continue to do so. My only point, which was echoed I believe by Beruity, was that we are all human and these conflicts are not unique to any one region of humanity.
Whatever... It is what it is.
Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:55 pm
by Beiruty
FishInTx wrote:G26ster wrote: we are all human and these conflicts are not unique to any one region of humanity.
Haven't most conflicts, wars, been about power, resources or political ideals and not religion? I know about the crusades but any others? I'll admit I'm not very book smart but it seems that muslims are killing muslims and most anybody else because of what God tells them or because somebody else doesn't see God the same way they do.? I would say these conflicts in todays age are unique. They don't want to wipe Israel off the map or "take out the Big Satan" because of our natural resources. But because of what Allah tells them to.
Till date, I do not see the feasibility of taking out the " Big Satan" by any state or non-state entity. Simply, US once feeling real pain will terminate the enemy on the mass. Example, WW2' "Little boy" and "Fat Man"
Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:10 am
by FishInTx
Beiruty wrote:
Till date, I do not see the feasibility of taking out the " Big Satan" by any state or non-state entity. Simply, US once feeling real pain will terminate the enemy on the mass. Example, WW2' "Little boy" and "Fat Man"
You can terminate the enemy when you know exactly who the enemy is. Hopefully, we'll know who it is. A suitcase nuke in NYC might be from Iran, Syria, the muslim brotherhood, Pakistan, etc.. At some moments, I don't believe "they" ponder feasibility. Bring on the 12th Iman, Al-Mahdi. Intertesting times!!
Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:02 am
by Beiruty
FishInTx wrote:Beiruty wrote:
Till date, I do not see the feasibility of taking out the " Big Satan" by any state or non-state entity. Simply, US once feeling real pain will terminate the enemy on the mass. Example, WW2' "Little boy" and "Fat Man"
You can terminate the enemy when you know exactly who the enemy is. Hopefully, we'll know who it is. A suitcase nuke in NYC might be from Iran, Syria, the muslim brotherhood, Pakistan, etc.. At some moments, I don't believe "they" ponder feasibility. Bring on the 12th Iman, Al-Mahdi. Intertesting times!!
Russia, planted dozens of said N.suitcases in US and it is still has many under the control of their life-long secret agents in US. None went Kaboom. What if one malfunctioned and who would be blamed???
We are not there yet. 12th imam is for Shia. There is of course Al-Mahdi for Sunnis too who in his reigning time would prepare for the return of Jesus, peace be upon him. Ooops we are talking religion. I guess I should stop, or it this thread would be locked.

Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:01 am
by Oldgringo
AndyC wrote:... Let people live in peace, regardless of their religion - sheesh.
My point, exactly! If, OTOH; they choose not to live in peace, that is their business and none of ours - as long as they stay in their own yards.
Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:34 am
by FishInTx
Beiruty wrote: Ooops we are talking religion. I guess I should stop, or it this thread would be locked.

Yes, you are correct. How about this weather? I heard it might hit 12,000 degrees in NYC.

Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:36 am
by Beiruty
FishInTx wrote:Beiruty wrote: Ooops we are talking religion. I guess I should stop, or it this thread would be locked.

Yes, you are correct. How about this weather? I heard it might hit 12,000 degrees in NYC.

I am afraid after the sunburst the fall out would jam the traffic. Maybe I should take the subway
The road traffic guy would be real busy on that TV!
Re: Next Middle East war is comming on line fast
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:46 am
by MoJoeWrkn
Oldgringo wrote:AndyC wrote:... Let people live in peace, regardless of their religion - sheesh.
My point, exactly! If, OTOH; they choose not to live in peace, that is their business and none of ours - as long as they stay in their own yards.
The problem is if they develop inter-continental ballistic missiles equipped with nuclear warheads, are the still staying in their own backyards? Or do we have to wait until they deploy the weapon?