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Re: Peter piper pizza in El Paso

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:07 am
by texas-sig
I always carry at PPP.

Re: Peter piper pizza in El Paso

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:20 am
by Toorop
Why not respect their wishes and not carry there? Or better yet, why not just ask the manager what they wish and leave if they don't want you to carry? Doing the right thing is not an easy choice but it is what we should do.

Re: Peter piper pizza in El Paso

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:37 am
by Originalist
Toorop wrote:Why not respect their wishes and not carry there? Or better yet, why not just ask the manager what they wish and leave if they don't want you to carry? Doing the right thing is not an easy choice but it is what we should do.
Perhaps their wishes is to create an enhanced charge for those who enter the property without a CHL since the gunbuster sign would create a criminal trespass offense for those without a CHL who carry a gun on their premise. Perhaps its their wishes to prohibit those guys but allow CHLers to ensure their business doesn't become a victim disarmament zone.

Re: Peter piper pizza in El Paso

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:06 am
by wgoforth
Toorop wrote:Why not respect their wishes and not carry there? Or better yet, why not just ask the manager what they wish and leave if they don't want you to carry? Doing the right thing is not an easy choice but it is what we should do.
Why is it the "right thing to do?" I am not a mind reader. Since the state says if they do not wish me there, then they must place the 30.06 sign up. Since that is the requirement and they didn't meet it, I must assume they intend something else. ASK the manager?? Why? And risk having them to either give me verbal notification so that I cannot, OR even worse, their deciding to put up the enforceable 30.06.

Re: Peter piper pizza in El Paso

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:47 am
by texas-sig
This is why you should carry at all times at ppp.

http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_20111853/ ... otimes.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Peter piper pizza in El Paso

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:17 am
by Toorop
AFCop wrote:
Toorop wrote:Why not respect their wishes and not carry there? Or better yet, why not just ask the manager what they wish and leave if they don't want you to carry? Doing the right thing is not an easy choice but it is what we should do.
Perhaps their wishes is to create an enhanced charge for those who enter the property without a CHL since the gunbuster sign would create a criminal trespass offense for those without a CHL who carry a gun on their premise. Perhaps its their wishes to prohibit those guys but allow CHLers to ensure their business doesn't become a victim disarmament zone.
Perhaps then why not ask them what they want? This way we can know for sure?

Re: Peter piper pizza in El Paso

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:18 am
by Toorop
wgoforth wrote:
Toorop wrote:Why not respect their wishes and not carry there? Or better yet, why not just ask the manager what they wish and leave if they don't want you to carry? Doing the right thing is not an easy choice but it is what we should do.
Why is it the "right thing to do?" I am not a mind reader. Since the state says if they do not wish me there, then they must place the 30.06 sign up. Since that is the requirement and they didn't meet it, I must assume they intend something else. ASK the manager?? Why? And risk having them to either give me verbal notification so that I cannot, OR even worse, their deciding to put up the enforceable 30.06.
You must assume that they intend something else? You yourself said you won't ask the manager so he doesn't ask you to leave, isn't that the real reason?

Re: Peter piper pizza in El Paso

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:42 am
by wgoforth
Toorop wrote:
wgoforth wrote:
Toorop wrote:Why not respect their wishes and not carry there? Or better yet, why not just ask the manager what they wish and leave if they don't want you to carry? Doing the right thing is not an easy choice but it is what we should do.
TXDPS website specifies a business MUST put up a 30.06 if they intend you. Look at question number 54 and notice words REQUIRED and MUST
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... hlfaqs.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Peter piper pizza in El Paso

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:24 am
by Crossfire
Toorop wrote:Why not respect their wishes and not carry there? Or better yet, why not just ask the manager what they wish and leave if they don't want you to carry? Doing the right thing is not an easy choice but it is what we should do.
PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!
Toorop does not live in Texas. He does not care about Texas CHL. He is only here to create trouble. DO NOT RESPOND to HIM!

Re: Peter piper pizza in El Paso

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:16 am
by wgoforth
Crossfire wrote:
Toorop wrote:Why not respect their wishes and not carry there? Or better yet, why not just ask the manager what they wish and leave if they don't want you to carry? Doing the right thing is not an easy choice but it is what we should do.
PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!
Toorop does not live in Texas. He does not care about Texas CHL. He is only here to create trouble. DO NOT RESPOND to HIM!
:tiphat:
I make the mistake of assuming folks ask questions honestly too often. A shame that if these folks don't believe in concealed carrying they can't actually engage in honest dialog, isn''t it! Thanks for pointing it out. Can he just be given "the boot?"