Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Topics that do not fit anywhere else. Absolutely NO discussions of religion, race, or immigration!

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton

pcgizzmo
Senior Member
Posts: 488
Joined: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:11 pm

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by pcgizzmo »

Thomas wrote:
pcgizzmo wrote:Download Microsoft Virtual PC . With this you can create a Virtual PC on your current machine. This is just a virtual computer that can run Windows in full screen or a window on a physical PC. Make a copy of the virtual machine before you start it. Use this virtual PC to surf, read email, download email attachments, install programs etc... do most anything BUT things like check your bank account, make online purchases etc.. Only do those on your regular PC. If you get a virus, malware etc.. on your virtual machine simply delete it and make a copy from your original virtual machine and start it and your back in business.

This is also know and a sandbox or sandboxing. By using the virtual machine you are isolating your physical PC to some degree.
Hmm... Can I do Windows XP Mode inside Windows Virtual PC? Because then I can just recreate my current configuration in that. My desktop should be able to support Win 7, but I would have to upgrade the ram on my laptop (it's a new, 7 year old laptop). My desktop is only 6 years old though :mrgreen:

Yes, I think you could try that. I believe it would work. Good Luck!!!! 6 Years??? :smilelol5: That's a lifetime for a PC.
Thomas

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by Thomas »

pcgizzmo wrote:6 Years??? :smilelol5: That's a lifetime for a PC.
And it's still kicking strong. Good ventilation and not loading it down with crapware is key. Of course it did suffer a good bump in my car once (the motherboard-built-in audio stopped working). I bought a $7 audio card online and install the driver manually (the exe was useless), and it sounds great! :mrgreen:

It also cost $1100 new back then, because I built it myself. So it has quality parts that won't give out as easily as some of the pre-built stuff you buy from the big companies.

That price includes the $200 19" flat screen CRT which I've since upgraded to dual 22" LCDs which I then upgraded to just one by giving the other to my dad. Two LCDs were great for awhile, then it just got too taxing attention-wise.
RPB
Banned
Posts: 8697
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:17 pm

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by RPB »

Thomas wrote:So I just installed the NoScript and Flashblock extensions for Firefox. I believe NoScript should greatly help protect me against malicious scripts should I accidentally come across any or if some ad has been compromised.

I haven't had any problems in over 3 years, but I would rather be safe than sorry. My computer proficiency is very high, but I'm sure not as high as those who work with computers for a living, so please don't hold back any ideas because they're too complicated for the average person.

To do: HOSTS file

QUESTION 1: Other than upgrading to Windows 7 and staying current with all updates, what other precautions can I take to protect my computer?

QUESTION 2: I like the idea of NoScript blocking tracking scripts. What other things can I do to protect my privacy?

QUESTION 3: I like the idea of Flashblock stopping most ads. It's extremely annoying when the audio in some ad starts playing and I can't find it, or it doesn't even have a mute button (curse the person who made that decision). What other things can I do to protect my sanity?

QUESTION 4: Any ideas on the best place to get a copy of a good HOSTS file?

My Setup:
Windows XP Pro SP3
Windows SteadyState
Microsoft Security Essentials
Firefox
- NoScript
- Flashblock

Most importantly, I use Common Sense 2010 Professional Version:
(I'm not a brain-dead idiot that clicks on stupid links/games/offers/deals/etc)
additional suggestions:

Spywareblaster
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1) can create system snapshot
2) Host file backups
3) prevents lots of spyware stuff rather than trying to remove it later
Doesn't slow anything down, it just immunizes and has tools.
Spywareblaster.JPG
I use Comodo firewall and Antivirus in addition to Windows firewall, the "Internet Security" and they also have other products for backup etc if you want (free)
http://www.comodo.com/products/free-pro ... sk3=comodo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And, never restart/shut down without cleaning first.
Some new Malware use an old method of ceating two files, one seemingly harmless file which another file on restart will rename the first file into an executable type file.

I use CCleaner several times a day, usually each time I close the browser
It also has tools, so things which programs like RealPlayer and Quicktime install which autostart to check for updates all the time can be temporarily disabled if you only use them like once every 2 years to watch Senate/House hearings etc.

And, it cleans alll the Temporary stuff, and cleans registry from things uninstallers leave behind
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AND I noticed in CCleaner just now, I forgot to mention ...
I also run Microsoft's Security Essentials FREE ... it eliminated 2 trojans from "The Cloud"
(MSC
is running and set to AutoStart)
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/wind ... essentials" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

All 4 I listed above are free
CCleaner can be set to check for updates as it starts
Comodo will autoupdate itself
Microsoft Security Essentials will Autoupdate itself
Spywareblaster, you can manually check for updates and it's free, or pay a fee and it will Autoupdate.

additional CCleaner Screenshot below
Attachments
Ccleaner2.JPG
Ccleaner.JPG
I'm no lawyer

"Never show your hole card" "Always have something in reserve"
RPB
Banned
Posts: 8697
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:17 pm

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by RPB »

Microsoft's Security Essentials

The two "TMP" files were trojans which monitor what a person does

That's the value of CCleaner cleaning the Temporary files and Temporary Internet files (and of downloading the free Microsoft Security Essentials ... in case you forget, like I did one day) :mrgreen:

Notice too, That Comodo had already quarantined them ... that's why Microsoft Security Essentials found them in Comodo Quarantine folder.

Also, while just now checking My Comodo Quarantine folder, I noticed yet another Trojan, which Comodo quarantined, but Microsoft apparently didn't recognize.

Since about 1998 I've run two antivirus programs, and some can conflict with each other, but I've tested many and these two co-exist well.

I used to run 4 firewalls (combined hardware and software firewalls., but I don't nowadays, I'm not as big a target as I once was when I worked some MSN server stuff from home.)
Attachments
MSC.JPG
Last edited by RPB on Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I'm no lawyer

"Never show your hole card" "Always have something in reserve"
User avatar
sugar land dave
Senior Member
Posts: 1396
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:03 am
Location: Sugar Land, TX

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by sugar land dave »

FireFox plugin: Do Not Track Plus http://www.abine.com/dntdetail.php?
DPS Received Forms- 1/18/11 Online Status - 1/27/11 My Mailbox - 2/12/11
NRA Life Member
RPB
Banned
Posts: 8697
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:17 pm

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by RPB »

sugar land dave wrote:FireFox plugin: Do Not Track Plus http://www.abine.com/dntdetail.php?
Thanks, I use firefox Private Browsing mode already, and that plays well with my other things and blocked Twitter from tracking without preventing me from doing anything
I'm no lawyer

"Never show your hole card" "Always have something in reserve"
Thomas

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by Thomas »

sugar land dave wrote:FireFox plugin: Do Not Track Plus http://www.abine.com/dntdetail.php?
Well, I already installed NoScript and Ghostery, two Firefox add-ons I've seen mentioned at a couple of reputable places. I also just installed Do Not Track Plus and visited a dozen popular sites, and it only blocked one thing, Yahoo Ad Network. I don't even use yahoo except in the blue moon to look at movies. Also, websites are noticeably more slower with the addition of Do Not Track Plus. I noticed they were a little slower before Do Not Track Plus on the account of the other add-ons, but now the slowness is compounded. Since Do Not Track Plus is not as popular, I am going to remove it.
User avatar
pbwalker
Senior Member
Posts: 3032
Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 10:12 am
Location: Northern Colorado

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by pbwalker »

Wow...I must be lucky. When I was a Windows user, I never ran anti-virus. I never installed any "fonts" or toolbars. Never opened an attachment that was executable or questionable. Never believed I was the millionth customer to a website...etc. And in those 6 or 7 years, I never had an issue with a virus or data breech.

I have to chuckle when someone asks me to help them with their computer, and I sit down to this:

Image

I just tell them there is nothing I can do...they need to return the machine to the store and go take a class at the local college before they buy another computer. :lol: There is a reason I don't work in any end-user support capacity anymore. :lol:

And remember...Linux isn't the be-all, end-all. You still need to do some configuration to harden the machine.
*NRA Endowment Member* | Veteran
Vote Adam Kraut for the NRA Board of Directors - http://www.adamkraut.com/
RPB
Banned
Posts: 8697
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:17 pm

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by RPB »

pbwalker wrote:Wow...I must be lucky. When I was a Windows user, I never ran anti-virus. I never installed any "fonts" or toolbars. Never opened an attachment that was executable or questionable. Never believed I was the millionth customer to a website...etc. And in those 6 or 7 years, I never had an issue with a virus or data breech.

I have to chuckle when someone asks me to help them with their computer, and I sit down to this:

Image

I just tell them there is nothing I can do...they need to return the machine to the store and go take a class at the local college before they buy another computer. :lol: There is a reason I don't work in any end-user support capacity anymore. :lol:

And remember...Linux isn't the be-all, end-all. You still need to do some configuration to harden the machine.
Many years ago, I built a cousin a computer
80 gig Windows drive and 80 gig Programs/Data drive
I set e-mail storage, program default installation, Temp, Temporary Internet files etc all to D drive with registry edits.


His Windows C drive ran out of space in a few months, his browser at full screen let you see about an inch of web page and 16 inches of toolbars.

I told him he needed to buy a Dell or HP and get the multi-year on-site service plan.
I'm no lawyer

"Never show your hole card" "Always have something in reserve"
User avatar
sugar land dave
Senior Member
Posts: 1396
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:03 am
Location: Sugar Land, TX

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by sugar land dave »

Thomas wrote:
sugar land dave wrote:FireFox plugin: Do Not Track Plus http://www.abine.com/dntdetail.php?
Well, I already installed NoScript and Ghostery, two Firefox add-ons I've seen mentioned at a couple of reputable places. I also just installed Do Not Track Plus and visited a dozen popular sites, and it only blocked one thing, Yahoo Ad Network. I don't even use yahoo except in the blue moon to look at movies. Also, websites are noticeably more slower with the addition of Do Not Track Plus. I noticed they were a little slower before Do Not Track Plus on the account of the other add-ons, but now the slowness is compounded. Since Do Not Track Plus is not as popular, I am going to remove it.
I have built all of my machines since 1982; Never have bought a name-brand. I admit I have the fastest internet I can buy in my neighborhood, I build only very fast computers for myself, and I layer my pc defenses to a ridiculous degree, so it is quite possible something can slow down some computers without me being aware. I apologize for leading you astray.
:tiphat:
DPS Received Forms- 1/18/11 Online Status - 1/27/11 My Mailbox - 2/12/11
NRA Life Member
Thomas

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by Thomas »

sugar land dave wrote:
Thomas wrote:
sugar land dave wrote:FireFox plugin: Do Not Track Plus http://www.abine.com/dntdetail.php?
Well, I already installed NoScript and Ghostery, two Firefox add-ons I've seen mentioned at a couple of reputable places. I also just installed Do Not Track Plus and visited a dozen popular sites, and it only blocked one thing, Yahoo Ad Network. I don't even use yahoo except in the blue moon to look at movies. Also, websites are noticeably more slower with the addition of Do Not Track Plus. I noticed they were a little slower before Do Not Track Plus on the account of the other add-ons, but now the slowness is compounded. Since Do Not Track Plus is not as popular, I am going to remove it.
I have built all of my machines since 1982; Never have bought a name-brand. I admit I have the fastest internet I can buy in my neighborhood, I build only very fast computers for myself, and I layer my pc defenses to a ridiculous degree, so it is quite possible something can slow down some computers without me being aware. I apologize for leading you astray.
:tiphat:
That's alright. Maybe on a new computer today it would be no problem, but mine is 6 years old. As long as I keep it lean, I keep it fast. It's also been bumped around to the point where the on-board audio doesn't work, so I have to use a PCI card for that.
Alf
Senior Member
Posts: 254
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:06 pm

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by Alf »

Here's a version of John Farnam's rules for computer safety.
1. Don't install stupid programs.
2. Don't open email from stupid people.
3. Don't click on stupid links.

And be 127.0.0.1 by midnight. :coolgleamA:
User avatar
Syntyr
Senior Member
Posts: 1662
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:54 pm
Location: Houston

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by Syntyr »

pbwalker wrote:
I have to chuckle when someone asks me to help them with their computer, and I sit down to this:

I just tell them there is nothing I can do...they need to return the machine to the store and go take a class at the local college before they buy another computer. :lol: There is a reason I don't work in any end-user support capacity anymore. :lol:
You know it! It's going to be a long day when you sit down to something like this...

Image
Syntyr
"Wherever you go... There you are." - Buckaroo Banzai
"Inconceivable!" - Fizzinni
smoothoperator
Senior Member
Posts: 579
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:15 pm

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by smoothoperator »

:smilelol5: as if AOL by itself wasn't bad enough
User avatar
The Annoyed Man
Senior Member
Posts: 26892
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:59 pm
Location: North Richland Hills, Texas
Contact:

Re: Personal Computer Security and Privacy Questions

Post by The Annoyed Man »

Thomas wrote:QUESTION 1: Other than upgrading to Windows 7 and staying current with all updates, what other precautions can I take to protect my computer?
Reformat the drive and install Mac OS X. :mrgreen:
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, "Those Who Remain"

#TINVOWOOT
Post Reply

Return to “Off-Topic”