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howdy wrote:I realize there are twice as many Texas CHL holders as in 2002, but we also have 4 TIMES as many instructors. When I took the Instructor course in 2002, there was one course a year offered during the Summer, and only 200 would be accepted. The State was able to be somewhat selective on who got to attend. Now it appears there are several courses a year. Are these classes smaller or is the State training 800-1000 new instructors a year.

It's another revenue source for the state. Don't let anyone tell you any different. How come a Texas CHL costs so much more than an Utah or an Alabama permit? It's all about the money.

The state gets $50.00 per year per instructor. not exactly a windfall.

sjfcontrol wrote:The state gets $50.00 per year per instructor. not exactly a windfall.

Dollars are made from dimes. How many instructors are there at $50 a pop?

BTW, TPW brings in a lot, a whole lot, of revenue each year. Where do those monies go?

Oldgringo wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:The state gets $50.00 per year per instructor. not exactly a windfall.

Dollars are made from dimes. How many instructors are there at $50 a pop?

BTW, TPW brings in a lot, a whole lot, of revenue each year. Where do those monies go?

Well, roughly 2000 instructors x $50 = $100,000 per year.

What is TPW? And what does it have to do with state income from licensing instructors?

And out of that $100k you have to pay the salaries of the DPS instructors, rent on the facilities, and probably other overhead. Again, not a windfall for the state.

sjfcontrol wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:The state gets $50.00 per year per instructor. not exactly a windfall.

Dollars are made from dimes. How many instructors are there at $50 a pop?

BTW, TPW brings in a lot, a whole lot, of revenue each year. Where do those monies go?

Well, roughly 2000 instructors x $50 = $100,000 per year.

What is TPW? And what does it have to do with state income from licensing instructors?

And out of that $100k you have to pay the salaries of the DPS instructors, rent on the facilities, and probably other overhead. Again, not a windfall for the state.

What is TPW, you ask what is TPW???

TPW is Texas Parks & Wildlife. Take a gander at how much revenue TPW generates annually and then see where it goes. TPW's revenues go into the General Fund that funds whatever it funds, beyond state representatives' pensions, and TPW is left begging money each year to operate its parks and its other beneficial programs.

That's the same place the TexasCHL revenues go. Yes, sjf, 'ol buddy, dollars are made out of dimes. It's all about the money.

Oldgringo wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:The state gets $50.00 per year per instructor. not exactly a windfall.

Dollars are made from dimes. How many instructors are there at $50 a pop?

BTW, TPW brings in a lot, a whole lot, of revenue each year. Where do those monies go?

Well, roughly 2000 instructors x $50 = $100,000 per year.

What is TPW? And what does it have to do with state income from licensing instructors?

And out of that $100k you have to pay the salaries of the DPS instructors, rent on the facilities, and probably other overhead. Again, not a windfall for the state.

What is TPW, you ask what is TPW???

TPW is Texas Parks & Wildlife. Take a gander at how much revenue TPW generates annually and then see where it goes. TPW's revenues go into the General Fund that funds whatever it funds, beyond state representatives' pensions, and TPW is left begging money each year to operate its parks and its other beneficial programs.

That's the same place the TexasCHL revenues go. Yes, sjf, 'ol buddy, dollars are made out of dimes. It's all about the money.

Well, ol buddy, you were talking about the amount of income from licensing CHL instructors. If you have a problem with the parks department, start your own thread. Licensing fees for instructors amount to roughly $100k out of an annual budget of roughly $40 BILLION. And the overhead for the program must come out of those funds. Unless you believe the instructors should be licensed for free, what's the problem? After accounting for the expenses of the program, I doubt there is any significant profit for the state at all. Even if it was ALL profit, it would amount to 0.00025% of the annual Texas budget. Yeah, I'm sure they're just chomping at the bit for all that filthy lucre.

sjfcontrol wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:The state gets $50.00 per year per instructor. not exactly a windfall.

Dollars are made from dimes. How many instructors are there at $50 a pop?

BTW, TPW brings in a lot, a whole lot, of revenue each year. Where do those monies go?

Well, roughly 2000 instructors x $50 = $100,000 per year.

What is TPW? And what does it have to do with state income from licensing instructors?

And out of that $100k you have to pay the salaries of the DPS instructors, rent on the facilities, and probably other overhead. Again, not a windfall for the state.

What is TPW, you ask what is TPW???

TPW is Texas Parks & Wildlife. Take a gander at how much revenue TPW generates annually and then see where it goes. TPW's revenues go into the General Fund that funds whatever it funds, beyond state representatives' pensions, and TPW is left begging money each year to operate its parks and its other beneficial programs.

That's the same place the TexasCHL revenues go. Yes, sjf, 'ol buddy, dollars are made out of dimes. It's all about the money.

Well, ol buddy, you were talking about the amount of income from licensing CHL instructors. If you have a problem with the parks department, start your own thread. Licensing fees for instructors amount to roughly $100k out of an annual budget of roughly $40 BILLION. And the overhead for the program must come out of those funds. Unless you believe the instructors should be licensed for free, what's the problem? After accounting for the expenses of the program, I doubt there is any significant profit for the state at all. Even if it was ALL profit, it would amount to 0.00025% of the annual Texas budget. Yeah, I'm sure they're just chomping at the bit for all that filthy lucre.

You win! It's not about the money. Feel better?

Actually, I'm disappointed.

Why would the repeal LEOSA? CHL and LEOSA are totally different. CHL is for citizens and LEOSA refers to law enforcement officers. LEO can get a CHL but a CHL doesn't give the same level of rights as LEO