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I took the MSF class years ago, it was at at a Dallas County Community college (somewhere near I-20/67 or thereabouts). Took the class in February...day started out fine in the 50s...then dropped to the 40s....then started raining....then to the 30s....now frozen rain/sleet...we kept riding! Wheeeee!!!!! The next day it was in the 20s/30s and snow/ice...we rode anyway. The instructor put it like this: "now is the BEST time to learn how to ride in bad weather, you never know when you will get caught in the bad stuff out there, might as well learn now." I took the class for insurance discount purposes and my Dad took it to get his M endorsement. Even with all the bad weather I don't recall anyone dropping the bikes. Folks were MISERABLE though! I have REALLY good foul weather riding gear, that saved my bacon...gauntlet style gloves make a HUGE difference in that weather. I'll tell you this though, I saw some folks who should NOT have passed, well, pass the the course. I remember doing the "Suicide Figure 8" and everyone getting bunched up behind the rider that wouldn't shift to 2nd...that was a fun exercise though.

As far as instructors yelling, that is totally unacceptable in my book. Have not experienced that and I would not tolerate that.

If the other options don't pan out for a good MSF class, ask around at some of the local bike shops and see what is offered.

I've had my motorcycle endorsement for over 40 years. Is this course a requirement?

I haven't ridden in 30 years but refuse to let the endorsement lapse.

Mike1951 wrote:I've had my motorcycle endorsement for over 40 years. Is this course a requirement?

I haven't ridden in 30 years but refuse to let the endorsement lapse.

Not a requirement. But if you take it you can get your motorcycle endorsement without taking the road test.

steve817 wrote:

Mike1951 wrote:I've had my motorcycle endorsement for over 40 years. Is this course a requirement?

I haven't ridden in 30 years but refuse to let the endorsement lapse.

Not a requirement. But if you take it you can get your motorcycle endorsement without taking the road test.

Since you have not let your endorsement expire, it is not required but recommended as a refresher course and insurance discount.

If you do not currently have a motorcycle endorsement, then it is required to get the endorsement. It does however replace the road test.

The Harley class is a good class. It is a little more expensive, but you use 500 cc Buell Blast as course bikes. Some of the local dealerships have actual courses on property so they are in better shape than some of the parking lots I have seen these classes held on. Like stated above it is a requirement now,but has the benefit of waiving the driving test.

I could be wrong, but I thought that last Sept DPS stopped offering the driving test...effectively making the MSC a requirement.

I took my MSC in Baytown and on the Slow u-turn my foot touched twice and on the turn I the guy said I was going too slow lol but I passed no problem

If you're rusty, I strongly suggest the BRC or the experienced rider course, depending how rusty you're willing to admit you are.