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matriculated wrote:buying a house while black

The wife looks lighter skinned than me but everything is about race to some people. If we can put aside skin color for one minute, can someone explain to me how the police are supposed to know it was their house if they didn't have any paperwork and their ID still showed their old address? Also, if you were away and someone was in your house and the neighbors called police, should the police automatically believe them if they say they live there?

Lambda Force wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:I wouldn't stay in that neighborhood if that's how they received me. I'd turn around and sell the house.....for about half its value, just to screw up the comps for anyone else trying to sell their house. Expensive, but satisfying....... revenge is best served cold.

Screw up the comps?

I guess I'd have to sell pretty low, wouldn't I?

Kalonji, who grew up in the Congo, said the experience brought back painful memories.

“There, they put me down with the gun to my head, and come here, the same,” he said.

They just wanted to make him feel like he was at home.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I wouldn't stay in that neighborhood if that's how they received me. I'd turn around and sell the house.....for about half its value, just to screw up the comps for anyone else trying to sell their house. Expensive, but satisfying....... revenge is best served cold.

I'd sue a whole lot of people, and then retire in a better neighborhood.

Wienerdogtroy wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:I wouldn't stay in that neighborhood if that's how they received me. I'd turn around and sell the house.....for about half its value, just to screw up the comps for anyone else trying to sell their house. Expensive, but satisfying....... revenge is best served cold.

I'd sue a whole lot of people, and then retire in a better neighborhood.

There you go!

This was not one of the sheriff's office's finer days........

Ameer wrote:

matriculated wrote:buying a house while black

The wife looks lighter skinned than me but everything is about race to some people. If we can put aside skin color for one minute, can someone explain to me how the police are supposed to know it was their house if they didn't have any paperwork and their ID still showed their old address? Also, if you were away and someone was in your house and the neighbors called police, should the police automatically believe them if they say they live there?

The police have to act on the evidence and observations when they arrive. As you stated, the Kalonjis did not have closing papers with them or IDs with the current address so the police wouldn't automatically believe them. They could have checked with the realtor or escrow company. I would think that it could have been resolved without the Kalonjis having to spend the night in jail.

I would say it's profiling for sure

Ameer wrote:

matriculated wrote:buying a house while black

The wife looks lighter skinned than me but everything is about race to some people.

That's funny. The first part of my sentence (that you selectively left out) was:

matriculated wrote:The man was buying a house while black,

The man. It's right there. I also noticed that his wife looked lilly white, that's why I specifically said the man. I think the wife was just collateral damage.

The larger point here is what in the world were these neighbors thinking? I mean, holy moly, talk about playing cop, playing Batman, or whatever you want to call it. How is what they did legal? Is it? Why weren't they arrested for running around and holding people at gun point?

Lambda Force wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:I wouldn't stay in that neighborhood if that's how they received me. I'd turn around and sell the house.....for about half its value, just to screw up the comps for anyone else trying to sell their house. Expensive, but satisfying....... revenge is best served cold.

Screw up the comps?

I hope I wasn't the only dork to click on the "play" button about 4 times before realizing this was just a screenshot and not an actual video...

Anybody?

george wrote:The larger point here is what in the world were these neighbors thinking? I mean, holy moly, talk about playing cop, playing Batman, or whatever you want to call it. How is what they did legal? Is it? Why weren't they arrested for running around and holding people at gun point?

Not a lawyer, but if the prior residents/homeowners had asked the neighbors to "look out for the place", they have some authority. Isn't that the law from the Rose case in Pasadena?

My understanding is that this was a foreclosure. If that's the case, would any request by the previous owners still have standing? After all, it's not even their place anymore.

EDIT: Actually, even if it wasn't a foreclosure and they just sold it, the question still stands. It's not their place anymore, so how would any requests regarding the property that they made have any standing? They have nothing to do with the house anymore. I assume it's the bank's house. I highly doubt that the bank made any preotection requests with the neighbors.

Ameer wrote:

matriculated wrote:buying a house while black

The wife looks lighter skinned than me but everything is about race to some people. If we can put aside skin color for one minute, can someone explain to me how the police are supposed to know it was their house if they didn't have any paperwork and their ID still showed their old address? Also, if you were away and someone was in your house and the neighbors called police, should the police automatically believe them if they say they live there?

I have a problem with the whole "resolution through pointing a gun in your face" scenario.

george wrote:

matriculated wrote:

george wrote:The larger point here is what in the world were these neighbors thinking? I mean, holy moly, talk about playing cop, playing Batman, or whatever you want to call it. How is what they did legal? Is it? Why weren't they arrested for running around and holding people at gun point?

Not a lawyer, but if the prior residents/homeowners had asked the neighbors to "look out for the place", they have some authority. Isn't that the law from the Rose case in Pasadena?

My understanding is that this was a foreclosure. If that's the case, would any request by the previous owners still have standing? After all, it's not even their place anymore.

EDIT: Actually, even if it wasn't a foreclosure and they just sold it, the question still stands. It's not their place anymore, so how would any requests regarding the property that they made have any standing? They have nothing to do with the house anymore. I assume it's the bank's house. I highly doubt that the bank made any preotection requests with the neighbors.

Ignorant of the legal particulars, but possibly the neighbors were unaware it was foreclosed.

Not in any form or fashion defending what happened, as at first take I was incensed. After further consideration, strange people next door, breaking into house, etc. I just don't have the first hand scoop.

Imagine if the neighbors felt threatened and got a round or two off. We might have another case of a friendly, overzealous neighbor shooting a "suspicious" black guy... D'oh! I need to quit.