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Re: If I wanted America to fail....

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:47 pm
by Divided Attention
Again the need for a like button!

Re: If I wanted America to fail....

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:00 pm
by Middle Age Russ
I think that federal elections should be rescheduled to April 16th. People should have to vote while the sting of what of they've just had to undergo is still fresh in their minds.
That's a great idea. Along with any ideas that will restore a constitutionally limited federal government with citizen legislators rather than career politicians looking after special interests (their own, of course).

Re: If I wanted America to fail....

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:07 pm
by Dave2
Middle Age Russ wrote:
I think that federal elections should be rescheduled to April 16th. People should have to vote while the sting of what of they've just had to undergo is still fresh in their minds.
That's a great idea. Along with any ideas that will restore a constitutionally limited federal government with citizen legislators rather than career politicians looking after special interests (their own, of course).
A lot of that will come from a correct interpretation of the 10th amendment and the commerce clause. Or at least it would push a lot of the bureaucracy to the state level where it can be more easily reined in.

Re: If I wanted America to fail....

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:08 pm
by sjfcontrol
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Middle Age Russ wrote:Thanks, TAM. Too bad we can't make watching this two or three times a requirement before going to the polls in November.
I think that federal elections should be rescheduled to April 16th. People should have to vote while the sting of what of they've just had to undergo is still fresh in their minds.
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

Re: If I wanted America to fail....

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:11 pm
by MasterOfNone
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Middle Age Russ wrote:Thanks, TAM. Too bad we can't make watching this two or three times a requirement before going to the polls in November.
I think that federal elections should be rescheduled to April 16th. People should have to vote while the sting of what of they've just had to undergo is still fresh in their minds.
Then they would just make sure enough people get a refund to buy a victory.

Re: If I wanted America to fail....

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:12 pm
by Thomas
sjfcontrol wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Middle Age Russ wrote:Thanks, TAM. Too bad we can't make watching this two or three times a requirement before going to the polls in November.
I think that federal elections should be rescheduled to April 16th. People should have to vote while the sting of what of they've just had to undergo is still fresh in their minds.
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
Vote for me for President and I'll get it changed. In fact, I'll reduce my term so that it matches up (any other candidate would say his/her term should be extended to match it up).

Re: If I wanted America to fail....

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:55 pm
by The Annoyed Man
MasterOfNone wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Middle Age Russ wrote:Thanks, TAM. Too bad we can't make watching this two or three times a requirement before going to the polls in November.
I think that federal elections should be rescheduled to April 16th. People should have to vote while the sting of what of they've just had to undergo is still fresh in their minds.
Then they would just make sure enough people get a refund to buy a victory.
That would only work for a while. To make it happen, they'd have to completely pillage the evil rich and the evil corporations. The rich and the Corporations would move to Aruba, and there would be no more tax base to support the refunds. Then they'd have to start taxing the people who used to get refunds........and the election comes the next day. :mrgreen:

Re: If I wanted America to fail....

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:50 pm
by MOA
Nice video. Here's another one in the same spirit.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=oSFaLUZ2rf4[/youtube]

Re: If I wanted America to fail....

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:06 am
by codeguy
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
Birdshot70 wrote:Riles me up just thinking about how much we have lost in the past 3.5 years under the current follower in charge.
:banghead:
Very well done video...I recommend letting others know outside this forum about it too!
:clapping:
Not everything in that video falls on Obama... At least with regard to the tax code, the issue of regulations piling up has been around since WWII, and got another boost in the middle of Reagan's term....
And that was nearly doubled in 1995 under Bill Clinton.
Keep in mind that the complexity of the laws is not proportional to their length, but increases exponentially. Double the amount of law on a topic, and you increase the complexity of it not twofold, but more like fourfold. In some cases, it's even worse than that; overreaching bureaucrats even contradict each other and make the same thing both illegal and mandatory.

True story: once upon a time, I owned a small business, and was told by a state tax authority that she wasn't sure what I should do in my particular circumstance -- whether I was required to do X or prohibited from doing so -- but I should know the consequences of my actions either way. If I did X (which would cost me a fortune and nearly put me out of business) and some bureaucrat determined that I wasn't required to do so, I would forfeit the amounts paid and could be charged with a felony on top of being broke. Perversely, I would then have opted into X and have to do it every year from that point on, even though it turned out to be illegal the first time. On the other hand, if I took my not-X option, but some bureaucrat determined that I was required to do X, I would likely be assessed tens of thousands of dollars in fines (again, likely putting me out of business) and, again, charged with a felony for failure to pay certain taxes. I took the not-X option, since (1) it seemed more likely to be correct and (2) at least there would be some chance of it not ruining my life. To this day, I have no idea what the correct answer is, or even if there is one.

I am now a lawyer, and trust me: the law on almost any topic in this country has gotten so complex that even the smartest, most experienced lawyers at the best firms often know only tiny slivers of the law, even within their primary practice areas. It often takes huge amounts of research to answer even the simplest questions, because every situation has wrinkles that require reading this case or that statute or yonder rule, which then opens up some other, unanticipated, new can of worms to keep you awake at night.

(And for anyone who thinks it's more about lawyers racking up fees than it is about the complexity of this stuff, please believe me that for most lawyers not a day goes by in which they don't wish they could pay their clients just to make some issue less head-poundingly difficult. On top of that, 60+ hour work weeks are the norm. It can be incredibly demoralizing, which is a major reason so many lawyers are dissatisfied with their careers.)

</rant>

Back to the point: This video is excellent. Thanks for posting it.

Re: If I wanted America to fail....

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:36 am
by sjfcontrol
MOA wrote:Nice video. Here's another one in the same spirit.

[Paul Harvey Recording]

Anybody know when that was recorded? It didn't say on youtube that I could find. Depending on the date recorded, it was either "current situation commentary", or amazing prophecy!

Re: If I wanted America to fail....

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:40 am
by speedsix
...he wrote it about 1965...aired it several times through the years...timeless...