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74novaman wrote:

M1911A1-Lover wrote:

speedsix wrote:...the amount of hesitation brought about by worrying if the gun will be tied up in the legal system after a shooting might indicate that the best lubricant for that 1911 might be Vaseline...liberally applied to all outer surfaces...

I guess the part we're I say God forbid means nothing eh? the number 1 goal is to never ever ever use it, you should always talk down the situation and if that doesnt work pepper spray and handcuffs are your friend. i was just fishing for an opinion and seeing how many people would attack the .40

Wait, are you a cop?

I'm wondering about this too.

I would imagine, if you are not a cop, that the cuffs would cause more grief than what weapon you carry (in a self defense situation).

M1911A1-Lover wrote:Because its a sigma however i do own a 1911 but it was a gift from my father so thats just my fun gun (for the range) while I like my sigma because i dont have tenderonie hands, however I would like to own a Glock 19 I believe

Then can you ever carry the 1911? I could not bear to part with the pistol that my grandfather gave me. Accordingly, it sits in the safe. Sounds like you have to go get the Glock.

rm9792 wrote:I hate striker pistols with a passion but I will say that I have had several Sigma 9mms and they are completely reliable. The trigger pull is horrendous but an easy fix in about ten minutes. I am not sure why they have a bad rap. I own enough 1911s to know that (cover your eyes AndyC and forgive me) they can be finicky on a whim. If a bad national situation were to happen i would definitely have a hicap Sigma 9mm on me as a backup. But, given the likelihood of not needing it then I would go with a 1911.

Yeah i decided to bite the bullett as it were and carry my 1911 because i feel more secure, and for those of you who dont know, if you ever have to use your handgun and you have changed the trigger pull lbs in anyway most of your defence has gone out the window because the police check the trigger pull first and thats the first thing they inspect, so the trigger work is a no no pluss i have very strong hands so it doesnt matter to me. also another thing is no im not a cop but you dont need to be a cop to own handcuffs and use them in a situation that requires them (citizens arrest) also i do want to become hpd though, thats why im losing weight and getting fit and workingout.

Trigger pull us irrelevant. You have bought into urban legend. Maybe if you claimed it was an accident then they might try to blame any mods but that is doubtful. A good shoot is a good shoot regardless of weapon choice. Find a court case where trigger pull or choice of ammo was significant.
The pull on my last Sigma was over 12 lbs and i lowered it to around 7. My kimber 1911 from the factory was 4. So the sigma was still 8 lbs heavier.

rm9792 wrote:Trigger pull us irrelevant. You have bought into urban legend. Maybe if you claimed it was an accident then they might try to blame any mods but that is doubtful. A good shoot is a good shoot regardless of weapon choice. Find a court case where trigger pull or choice of ammo was significant.
The pull on my last Sigma was over 12 lbs and i lowered it to around 7. My kimber 1911 from the factory was 4. So the sigma was still 8 lbs heavier.

Well then that would mean that the HPD srgt i took my chl class from (who has been in shootings by himself) would be wrong, my 1911 has a 5lb pull so i carry my 1911 and with a lowered and flared ejection port the chances of a FF or jam is greatly reduced as you know. and for me my sigma 40 has a 10lb pull and pluss i do 300+lb deadlifts with my hands a 10lb trigger pull aint nothin.

M1911A1-Lover wrote:and for those of you who dont know, if you ever have to use your handgun and you have changed the trigger pull lbs in anyway most of your defence has gone out the window because the police check the trigger pull first and thats the first thing they inspect, so the trigger work is a no no pluss i have very strong hands so it doesnt matter to me.

Totally incorrect. Where did you hear this?

M1911A1-Lover wrote: also another thing is no im not a cop but you dont need to be a cop to own handcuffs and use them in a situation that requires them (citizens arrest)

Oh boy...

pbwalker wrote:

M1911A1-Lover wrote:and for those of you who dont know, if you ever have to use your handgun and you have changed the trigger pull lbs in anyway most of your defence has gone out the window because the police check the trigger pull first and thats the first thing they inspect, so the trigger work is a no no pluss i have very strong hands so it doesnt matter to me.

Totally incorrect. Where did you hear this?

M1911A1-Lover wrote: also another thing is no im not a cop but you dont need to be a cop to own handcuffs and use them in a situation that requires them (citizens arrest)

Oh boy...

roll your eyes all you want but its what i call the condom rule, better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. and i heared the trigger information from Srgt Paul Ogden he said that phorensics inspects the trigger first so dont mess with it because they call the factory to find out the original trigger pull.

are we being trolled?

pbwalker wrote:are we being trolled?

Hard to say... I'm inclined to think not, though. It seems to me that he's merely gotten all his mindset info from the police.

Dave2 wrote:

pbwalker wrote:are we being trolled?

Hard to say... I'm inclined to think not, though. It seems to me that he's merely gotten all his mindset info from the police.

I have i was trained by an hpd officer, not john rambo and what is trolling?

Dave2 wrote:

pbwalker wrote:are we being trolled?

Hard to say... I'm inclined to think not, though. It seems to me that he's merely gotten all his mindset info from the police.

I sure hope HPD is not advocating folks carry cuffs for citizens arrest. That's a recipe for disaster.

pbwalker wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

pbwalker wrote:are we being trolled?

Hard to say... I'm inclined to think not, though. It seems to me that he's merely gotten all his mindset info from the police.

I sure hope HPD is not advocating folks carry cuffs for citizens arrest. That's a recipe for disaster.

No they arent advocating that and never suggested that one bit, its just something i personally feel like doing but i can see now that i should probably not, a simple i wouldnt do that kind of answer would have been sufficient instead of all this back and forth banter.

M1911A1-Lover wrote:

pbwalker wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

pbwalker wrote:are we being trolled?

Hard to say... I'm inclined to think not, though. It seems to me that he's merely gotten all his mindset info from the police.

I sure hope HPD is not advocating folks carry cuffs for citizens arrest. That's a recipe for disaster.

No they arent advocating that and never suggested that one bit, its just something i personally feel like doing but i can see now that i should probably not, a simple i wouldnt do that kind of answer would have been sufficient instead of all this back and forth banter.

I was replying back to Dave2. But thanks anyways!

M1911A1-Lover wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

pbwalker wrote:are we being trolled?

Hard to say... I'm inclined to think not, though. It seems to me that he's merely gotten all his mindset info from the police.

I have i was trained by an hpd officer, not john rambo

But you're not an HPD officer, so their training is somewhat academic for you. They've got policies, procedures, and legal authority (for some actions) that you do not. I'm not saying it'll never happen... just that I'd be more worried about packing enough food, water & shelter to go on a trip to the mall than I would be about having cuffs to execute a citizen's arrest.

pbwalker wrote:

M1911A1-Lover wrote:

pbwalker wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

pbwalker wrote:are we being trolled?

Hard to say... I'm inclined to think not, though. It seems to me that he's merely gotten all his mindset info from the police.

I sure hope HPD is not advocating folks carry cuffs for citizens arrest. That's a recipe for disaster.

No they arent advocating that and never suggested that one bit, its just something i personally feel like doing but i can see now that i should probably not, a simple i wouldnt do that kind of answer would have been sufficient instead of all this back and forth banter.

I was replying back to Dave2. But thanks anyways!

I have no problem with that at all, i welcome being corrected because if you dont get corrected you cant learn.