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I was surprised to see that Appleseed recommends a .22 semi-auto. Figured a bolt gun would the the choice
I'd sure like to do that, with some family members

I like my CZ rifle. But you couldn't go wrong with a Marlin mdl 60 or a Ruger 10/22

I have one each of the Ruger and Marlin, and I may shop for that CZ.

My kid brother got a Marlin 60 when he was 8 years old. Great accurate little gun for the past 35 years. He left it at my house about 10 years ago when I was helping him move out of state and has yet to come retrieve it. I took it out to the range a couple of weeks ago to play with it and I think I had more fun shooting that rifle than I have had in years with my ARs and AKs. If it is possible to go back in time, I feel like I did for a couple of hours there. All the rifles your looking at are great choices, but I am going to vote for the Marlin 60!

From your list, I would suggest the CZ in the "American" version. They are very accurate rifles for the money. If you want to learn marksmanship, start shooting small bore rifle silhouette (all standing, off hand, no slings, jackets or any other aids other than a scope - which you will need to see the targets well enough to hit them). Guarenteed to be a humbling expericence the first time out. However, if you stick with it, in a few years you will be amazed at how well you will be able to shoot a rifle. One word of warning, you will soon want something better than your CZ. Anchutz rifles are the standard in small bore silhouette and they are amazingly accurate (and costly). You will also need to test ammo lots to find one your rifle likes best. Rimfires can be very picky. I have tested as many as 8 lots of same type of Lapua ammo before I found one my rifle really liked. Lots it did not like would shoot 2 -3 inches at 100 meters. The lot it liked shot 0.5 inches at 100 meters.

I have a ruger 10/22 (bought it new from TG&Y as a kid for $36.00) and it is a lot of fun to shoot but it won't hold a candle to the bolt actions in accuracy unless you send a huge ammount of money on it and it still won't keep up with the Anchutz rifles.

John

LTUME1978 wrote:From your list, I would suggest the CZ in the "American" version. They are very accurate rifles for the money. If you want to learn marksmanship, start shooting small bore rifle silhouette (all standing, off hand, no slings, jackets or any other aids other than a scope - which you will need to see the targets well enough to hit them). Guarenteed to be a humbling expericence the first time out. However, if you stick with it, in a few years you will be amazed at how well you will be able to shoot a rifle. One word of warning, you will soon want something better than your CZ. Anchutz rifles are the standard in small bore silhouette and they are amazingly accurate (and costly). You will also need to test ammo lots to find one your rifle likes best. Rimfires can be very picky. I have tested as many as 8 lots of same type of Lapua ammo before I found one my rifle really liked. Lots it did not like would shoot 2 -3 inches at 100 meters. The lot it liked shot 0.5 inches at 100 meters.

I have a ruger 10/22 (bought it new from TG&Y as a kid for $36.00) and it is a lot of fun to shoot but it won't hold a candle to the bolt actions in accuracy unless you send a huge ammount of money on it and it still won't keep up with the Anchutz rifles.

John

These are just a few of the things I didn't know about .22's. FWIW, new CZ 452 Americans are getting hard to find.

Oldgringo wrote: FWIW, new CZ 452 Americans are getting hard to find.

I think it's been superceded by the 455

LTUME1978 wrote:Anchutz rifles are the standard in small bore silhouette and they are amazingly accurate (and costly). I have a ruger 10/22 (bought it new from TG&Y as a kid for $36.00) and it is a lot of fun to shoot but it won't hold a candle to the bolt actions in accuracy unless you send a huge ammount of money on it and it still won't keep up with the Anchutz rifles. John

They are great rifles [and expensive]. My dad bought one in the 1960s. The target sights that he bought for it cost as much as most of his other rifles. Unfortunately I don't have the rifle, but I still have the scope. The set-up looked something like this. Note: The olympic iron sights are laying above the eyepiece of the scope.

Ruger 10/22 is a fun gun but if you spend some money they can be tack drivers at 50 yards

Marlin 60 for me

speedsix wrote:

flb_78 wrote:The Marlin Model 60 is the number 1 selling 22 rifle in the world.

I have both a Model 60 and a Ruger 10/22 and the Model 60 is a better shooter for me.

I prefer the tube style magazine over the detachable and with a Spee-D-Loader, it's fast to reload.

You should also look at a Henry lever action. The nice thing about a lever action is that it can shoot 22lr, 22long and 22short. The 22short out of a Henry is quieter than a BB gun and it excellent for use to introduce younger folk into the sport of shooting.

...almost twice as many Marlin 60s as 10/22s...and the Henrys are smooth rifles!!!

Got a used Marlin 60 a few years back for my then 9 y/o daughter. After some extensive repetition and safety training with a BB gun she graduated to the Marlin... Needless to say that plinker is a tack driver and she (and I) couldn't be happier with it...

barstoolguru wrote:Ruger 10/22 is a fun gun but if you spend some money they can be tack drivers at 50 yards

So that's 3/8" at 50 yards?

I've been looking at the CZ myself. This guns' trying to burn a whole in my pocket, also seems like something a little nicer to pass along when the time comes.

While nothing definitive, here are some tidbits I ran across along the way:

Cabela's has the CZ452 – Mil Trainer – Iron Sights & dovetailed for scope rings or a picatinny rail
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting ... t105531480

$18 Trigger kit to fix creep/pull weight:
http://www.yodaveproducts.com/

Replacement parts/upgrades/pic rails etc:
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Default.aspx

452 vs. 455 review:
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=32042.0

After a bit of reading, there seems to be a lot of success with wolf match target .22LR:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/167916 ... round-nose

I have two CZ 452 Trainer/Specials. One wears BRNO Match peep sights and the other has a Sightron S1 3-9x32 scope. I love them both. Check Budsguns.com for pricing. FWIW, all of my CZ's except one FS shoots CCI SV about as well as they shoot Wolf MT or SK Std +.

Good choice and good shooting!

Oldgringo wrote:I have two CZ 452 Trainer/Specials. One wears BRNO Match peep sights and the other has a Sightron S1 3-9x32 scope. I love them both. Check Budsguns.com for pricing. FWIW, all of my CZ's except one FS shoots CCI SV about as well as they shoot Wolf MT or SK Std +.

Good choice and good shooting!

I have heard/read good things about the CZ and it got good reviews in the book I mentioned. If I wasn't gun poor already I'd look into buying one. I would have to get rid of something first and I never seem to be able to do that.
The key with any firearm is to find the ammo it digests the best. That may take as many as 10-12 different brands, loadings and lots. If you find one that is right for your weapon purchase a supply of the same lot number for future shooting when you want precision. prob'ly already knew that, but I thought I'd mention it.