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Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:56 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
OP:

Speed monitoring is surveillance.

Equip yourself with the best counter-surveillance - a Valentine One.

$395 up front will take the worry out of being fast.

We choose not to be crime victims by carrying heat.

Choosing not to be a revenue source for cities and towns is another form
of protection.

SIA

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:03 pm
by Keith B
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:OP:

Speed monitoring is surveillance.

Equip yourself with the best counter-surveillance - a Valentine One.

$395 up front will take the worry out of being fast.

We choose not to be crime victims by carrying heat.

Choosing not to be a revenue source for cities and towns is another form
of protection.

SIA
Not a big help against Lidar unless you equip it with a laser jammer (yes, they are legal against Lidar), but will run another $800+.

My opinion, just keep your speed down or pay the consequences if caught.

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:08 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
The general take on lidar/laser detection is that since the beam is supposed to
be pencil thin, that even laser detectors will only tell you that you have just been tagged.

However, the Valentine One has ID'd laser in operation to me while I'm in the rightmost lane,
when the LEO appears to be targeting vehicles in the leftmost lane. It seems that either the
officer is not totally steady while shooting the laser, or there is in fact some "scatter", like the
scatter that radar emits.

SIA

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:34 pm
by dev_null
My daughter....19 yo, and somewhat of a leadfoot, got stopped by IPD on 114 for going 70+ in a 60.
For a moment, I read that as going 114 in a 60. :shock:

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:15 pm
by WildBill
dev_null wrote:
My daughter....19 yo, and somewhat of a leadfoot, got stopped by IPD on 114 for going 70+ in a 60.
For a moment, I read that as going 114 in a 60. :shock:
:oops: Me too!

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:18 pm
by Keith B
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:The general take on lidar/laser detection is that since the beam is supposed to
be pencil thin, that even laser detectors will only tell you that you have just been tagged.

However, the Valentine One has ID'd laser in operation to me while I'm in the rightmost lane,
when the LEO appears to be targeting vehicles in the leftmost lane. It seems that either the
officer is not totally steady while shooting the laser, or there is in fact some "scatter", like the
scatter that radar emits.

SIA
The issue is they have to target another vehicle that is at an angle where you will get the scatter far enough ahead of reaching the point where the officer targets you. A good liar officer will pick and choose his targets and you will get hit if you are the fastest visible target and your goose is cooked.

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:54 pm
by gigag04
Liar = Lidar I'm guessing?

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:01 pm
by Keith B
gigag04 wrote:Liar = Lidar I'm guessing?
Yes. Stupid autocorrect :grumble

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:12 pm
by barstoolguru
Irving likes 635 because its open and the roadway has big shoulders for cops safety
As far as your speed; speedometers are not always accurate at high speeds and can fluctuate a couple of mph. this is why they don't write tickets under 10 mph over the speed limit

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:15 pm
by Keith B
barstoolguru wrote:Irving likes 635 because its open and the roadway has big shoulders for cops safety
As far as your speed; speedometers are not always accurate at high speeds and can fluctuate a couple of mph. this is why they don't write tickets under 10 mph over the speed limit
I have seen tickets frequently written during saturation days for between 5 & 10 over

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:42 pm
by srothstein
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:The general take on lidar/laser detection is that since the beam is supposed to
be pencil thin, that even laser detectors will only tell you that you have just been tagged.
It has been a while since I looked at lidar or was trained in it, but pencil thin was only true compared to radar. The laser puts out a beam that expands to 3 feet wide at 100 yards. That keeps it pretty much on a single car target. Compare that to a radar gun that covers 40 feet at the same distance. That is covering three lanes of highway.

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:57 pm
by RSJ
It is a longshot but see if the court has taken judicial notice of the particular Lidar device.

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:03 am
by speedsix
Keith B wrote:
barstoolguru wrote:Irving likes 635 because its open and the roadway has big shoulders for cops safety
As far as your speed; speedometers are not always accurate at high speeds and can fluctuate a couple of mph. this is why they don't write tickets under 10 mph over the speed limit
I have seen tickets frequently written during saturation days for between 5 & 10 over
...they've had news stories within the last two years of writing for 2-3 miles over...in some jurisdictions...can't count on the grace anymore...

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:39 am
by RPBrown
speedsix wrote:
Keith B wrote:
barstoolguru wrote:Irving likes 635 because its open and the roadway has big shoulders for cops safety
As far as your speed; speedometers are not always accurate at high speeds and can fluctuate a couple of mph. this is why they don't write tickets under 10 mph over the speed limit
I have seen tickets frequently written during saturation days for between 5 & 10 over
...they've had news stories within the last two years of writing for 2-3 miles over...in some jurisdictions...can't count on the grace anymore...
Wife got stopped in Grand Prairie a couple of weeks ago for 53 in a 50 on Belt Line.

As for the Op's situation, I know a few Irving motor cops. They have told me several times that more times than not they will give warnings if its not over 10. They also know walking up to the car if it will be a warning or citation. However, the persons attitude can easily change that.

Re: Stopped by Irving LEO

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:44 am
by C-dub
RPBrown wrote: Wife got stopped in Grand Prairie a couple of weeks ago for 53 in a 50 on Belt Line.

As for the Op's situation, I know a few Irving motor cops. They have told me several times that more times than not they will give warnings if its not over 10. They also know walking up to the car if it will be a warning or citation. However, the persons attitude can easily change that.
I didn't know there was any place on Belt Line that was 50 mph.