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The Annoyed Man wrote:In times past, TAMU would have more self-respect than to publish a flawed study. Now it seems no better than UT.

They never have been.

speedsix wrote:...this "study" is like a pipe cleaner...if you don't like the way it looks...twist it a little bit more...

57Coastie wrote:Study out of A&M! I guess Gov. Rick will turn around and run the next time he encounters a coyote.

Jim

I wonder how old Bill White is doing these days?

Heartland Patriot wrote:UPDATE:

I also emailed the two authors of the study. And in my own way, I griped them out about it (no foul language used, I assure you all). One of them replied to me that their study merely pointed out data and it wasn't THEM saying this is for or against the laws, either way. Sound like typical liberals to me in that they believe their work to be free of bias, when in fact it is tailor-made to bolster the antis in their attack on SYG and Castle Doctrine laws. I am beginning to believe them to all to be (as someone else put it) in denial about their bias. Its either that, or they are lying through their digital teeth. Because to me, using faulty data and crunching their numbers in a suspect manner (which is what I gathered from reading John Lott's email reply to me), they built the bias into the study right from the get-go. And, of course, the mainstream media and press ran with it while yelling through a megaphone.

You know, the lefties exploit our inclination to be polite, honest, and thoughtful. They're liars, plain and simple, or they're unqualified to be high school teachers, much less college professors. There is no way a qualified college professor doesn't understand the fundamental dishonesty on display in this study.

My job requires a fair amount of research and I have a few graduate degrees, so I have my fair share of experience here. You always want to be comparing apples to apples before you run off and conduct your statistical analysis. In those states where the violent death rate increased, a more proper approach would include breaking down these deaths by category and discovering how many of them were the result of someone 'standing his ground' and then, WHERE was he standing his ground, and for what purpose. This would require some work, b ut then, that is what research is--work. I would certainly hope that the upward bump in crime rates would not be the result of several people going next door and complaining to their neighbor about too much noise and then shooting the neighbor. How many deaths occurred in a residence by a stranger at the hand of the homeowner? Change those to suicides. This TAMU research must surely have been done by an undergrad, hoping for a nice grade in a self directed type of class......

...you realize that displaying such wisdom and common sense virtually guarantees that you won't be in the higher education "in" crowd...proud of you!!!

And here we go, folks...

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/artic ... -laws.aspx

Drop in the murder rate...and other violent crimes. Looks like those fellows at A&M didn't do their homework properly. I guess someone else did.

There is a reason we have so many jokes that star with, "An Aggie..."

Dragonfighter wrote:There is a reason we have so many jokes that star with, "An Aggie..."

Well, I think part of the trick to pushing this one in the news was supposed to be that it came from A&M, which has a reputation for being more conservative than UT. If it had come from UT, then everyone would have made jokes about "keep Austin weird", mumbling about "liberal Austinites", and it would have been a "so what?"...but with it coming from A&M they could say, "See even the conservatives think those SYG laws are bad"...only problem for them is that a poorly done study with bias is a poorly done study with bias, no matter who is doing it...and they got called on it.