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Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:46 pm
by 57Coastie
I am happy to add one to your collection: out-of-control unjustified stop and frisk.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/opini ... u_20120613" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jim

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:00 pm
by smoothoperator
What this country needs is a President who, in the wake of a disaster hitting NYC, will call up Bloomie on live TV and ask him how the nanny state thing is working out for him. Then hang up without offering any more bailouts for NYC.

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:17 pm
by RoyGBiv
57Coastie wrote:I am happy to add one to your collection.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/opini ... u_20120613" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jim
Oh yeah... I forgot that one... Thanks..
Keep em coming...

Maybe if we get enough I can send the link to the good (/sarcasm) Mayor.

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:18 pm
by RoyGBiv
smoothoperator wrote:What this country needs is a President who, in the wake of a disaster hitting NYC, will call up Bloomie on live TV and ask him how the nanny state thing is working out for him. Then hang up without offering any more bailouts for NYC.
Just because our NYC brothers might be left-wing, nanny state, liberals (at least 51% of them, anyways) doesn't mean they aren't our brothers.

Tough love, sure. Abandonment? I wouldn't.

New York City needs an intervention. Like on TV. :mrgreen:

Upstate NY is pretty cool, I think. Beautiful geography too..
Still a bit left for me, but, not as much as downstate.

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:24 pm
by smoothoperator
Nobody should get bailouts. That's communism not brotherhood.

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:52 pm
by chasfm11
Oldgringo wrote:
WildBill wrote:This sounds like mass psychosis. :leaving
Once those left wing, liberal yankees find out we ain't coming up there no more, they'll get right. :txflag:
Not a chance. They are like suicide bombers - ready to go to their grave for "the cause".

That said, there are a lot of fine people in NY State. Kinda like Texas when you get out of Austin and Houston. The unfortunate part is that the political machines control the elections to the extent the a decent person rarely gets elected to public office. And the ones that are elected drink the same Koolaid.

Just think - you could have a Chuck Schumer representing you. Wait.... we have Joe Strauss.... :banghead:

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:36 am
by anygunanywhere
Mrs. Anygun wants me to take her to NYC to do the tourista thing, you know, catch a broadway show stuff. I'm not sure I want to catch a broadway show if the drink and popcorn at the shows are restricted in size. I would be jonesin' for a big gulp size and a bucket with butter drizzled popcorn.

Anygunanywhere

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:46 am
by jimlongley
fannypacker wrote:My wife's daughter lives in Brooklyn and she goes every year. I love my wife but I just can't bring myself to go there with her. I feel really uncomfortable disarming after all these of carrying.
Four years in the Navy during Vietnam and the only place I ever got shot at was Brooklyn.

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:48 am
by jimlongley
RoyGBiv wrote:
smoothoperator wrote:What this country needs is a President who, in the wake of a disaster hitting NYC, will call up Bloomie on live TV and ask him how the nanny state thing is working out for him. Then hang up without offering any more bailouts for NYC.
Just because our NYC brothers might be left-wing, nanny state, liberals (at least 51% of them, anyways) doesn't mean they aren't our brothers.

Tough love, sure. Abandonment? I wouldn't.

New York City needs an intervention. Like on TV. :mrgreen:

Upstate NY is pretty cool, I think. Beautiful geography too..
Still a bit left for me, but, not as much as downstate.
The problem is that the vast majority of NY legislators are from NYCity, and the vast majority of them are elected over and over through the political machine. NYCity is the very best example of a megatropolis that needs to be parted from the rest of the state.

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:56 am
by surprise_i'm_armed
Cigar Afficiando Magazine, in the August 2012 issue, details in the "Editor's Note" on page 13
that Bloomberg is trying to get all NYC apartment buildings to have written detailed smoking policies,
and that real estate agents should disclose the smoking or non-smoking habits of current tenants so that
future tenants will know.

Bloomberg claims that he is not trying to outlaw tobacco smoking in private residences, but this will inevitably
lead to banning it, IMHO.

I'm not a smoker, but heck, folks should be able to have some cancer sticks if they're in their own home.

By the way, I tried to provide the link to the above citation, but the above magazine's searching capability
was not user-friendly.

SIA

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:33 am
by RoyGBiv
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:I tried to provide the link to the above citation, but the above magazine's searching capability
was not user-friendly.

SIA
Another good one...

I was able to find a related link, not the original article..
I think the issue you're referring to is not available online yet (probably the current issue in newsstands).
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/blogs/show/id/16545" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's the news story from the Times, from 18-April-12
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/nyreg ... dings.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:42 am
by anygunanywhere
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:
I'm not a smoker, but heck, folks should be able to have some cancer sticks if they're in their own home.
A fine smoke should not be referred to as a cancer stick.

Anygunanywhere while taking a long draw on a Romeo and Julieta Churchill while sipping a good bourbon seated on the back porch of the house in La Grange. Armed of course.

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:16 am
by 57Coastie
57Coastie wrote:I am happy to add one to your collection: out-of-control unjustified stop and frisk.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/opini ... u_20120613" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jim
An imaginative step has been taken to attempt to bring the seriousness of this stop and frisk issue to the attention of the authorities and the public.

http://www.nyclu.org/app" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jim

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:56 am
by chasfm11
Here's one

http://nation.foxnews.com/gun-control/2 ... king-guest

Apparently, the NY Legislature is going to vote on microstamping. S.E. Cupp does a credible job of keeping the Brady guy at bay.

Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:53 am
by surprise_i'm_armed
RoyGBiv:
Thank you for your diligence at finding some related links to my post.


anygunanywhere:
I realized that regular tobacco cigarettes are the worst cancer sticks.
Cigars are less so. I'm glad that you are enjoying yours. When Cuba is opened
up to US interests, you should have even more of a choice.

The US base for cigar making was Tampa, Florida. I don't know if that's still true.
I'm not sure if it was in Cuba or Tampa, but the cigar companies used to employ
"readers". These men would stand at the front of the large cigar rolling rooms
and read a variety of newspapers and books over speakers to the people doing
the repetitive job of rolling cigars. They would read all day in order to keep the workers entertained.

Eventually the readers read too many articles about social justice/unionizing issues
and management finally got rid of them.


SIA