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alphonso wrote:Is there a good definition of school sponsored activity on school grounds (not in the building)?

I'm sure that a football game would be a school sponsored activity, but what about a foot ball practice, a bake sale, or just students walking around? After all, the school does sponsor (sort of) students just walking around on the grounds...

All of those things count as a school activity, especially during school hours as far as the students just walking around goes. In elementary schools that would be recess. Band rehearsal would also count. There isn't really a list, so it's more of a common sense kind of thing. Also, since there is no case law on this and a CHL holder is, what, something like 14x more law abiding than the general public and 3x more law abiding than LEOs, we are either a very smart bunch or tend to err on the cautious side. For me, if I'm not sure about it I just leave it in the truck or don't bring it at all.

I don't think there's any case law so it's best to follow the principle of whatever you're confident you or your lawyer can convince a jury is or isn't a school sponsored activity. That plus a dose of "concealed means concealed" gives me confidence walking on a college campus as long as I don't enter buildings, but that's my personal line and not advice.

smoothoperator wrote:I don't think there's any case law so it's best to follow the principle of whatever you're confident you or your lawyer can convince a jury is or isn't a school sponsored activity. That plus a dose of "concealed means concealed" gives me confidence walking on a college campus as long as I don't enter buildings, but that's my personal line and not advice.

Its perfectly legal to walk on a college campus armed as long as you don't enter any buildings.

So this begs the question: What constitutes a "school"? Certain schools are obvious, but my daughter went to camp at a little art studio that they call a "school of art". Do places like this count?

brainman wrote:So this begs the question: What constitutes a "school"? Certain schools are obvious, but my daughter went to camp at a little art studio that they call a "school of art". Do places like this count?

One "school of thought" is:

School of Martial Arts
Schools of fish
The Thursday art and basket weaving and pottery class at the elderly care/ Senior center...

don't usually get accreditation from TEA
http://www.tea.state.tx.us/index2.aspx? ... 2147483702" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Conservatively, a school is a facility in which or at which some form of instruction occurs. A facility is a structure or an improved area whose improvements facilitate the instructional program. I would not carry inside a high school, inside a stadium, inside an athletic training or practice area, a barber college, or a children's playground if it is attached or in close proximity to a school, and whose primary purpose involves child play between other instructional activity. I think you are good to go in a stadium parking lot unless things are happening there like a booster club hot dog party.

RPB wrote:
School of Martial Arts
Schools of fish
The Thursday art and basket weaving and pottery class at the elderly care/ Senior center...

don't usually get accreditation from TEA
http://www.tea.state.tx.us/index2.aspx? ... 2147483702" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TEA does not accredit all schools in Texas. All public K-12, yes. Universities, no. Beauty colleges, no. There are other accreditation agencies for colleges.