TexasCHLforum.com

You have the straight story above.

I’ll add, I’ve seen folks wounded (not die, after having been hit) with everything from 1000lb GBU’s to Hellfire Missiles, 30mm, 25mm cannon fire, 7.62, 9mm, 5.56, .50cal…. and seen many others very dead from the same.

I can attest, all the above can kill, and humans can be hit by pieces , parts or the whole projectile and not die.

Welcome home Bronco.

Now back to regular programing.

30 mm Mini's give me the warm fuzzies.

Off topic, but goodness I love me some good ol' fashioned (not so old fashioned) oppressive fire.

And welcome hom, Bronco!

I used to own the XDSC 9mm It was a great gun. Switched to the .45 compact with the 4" barrel. Love it even more. I'm sure if I tried the new 3.8 .45 I would want one. I will probably get one soon enough. Don't get caught up in the numbers game. Carry and shoot the caliber that you do the best with. The wounding round vs. the stopping round is determined by how accurately you shoot.

I had an XD 40 Sub Compact. Sold it.

Too snappy for me.

I would go with the 9.

AB

bronco78 wrote:May I humble suggest you get your hands on a XDm .45 compact prior to your finial decision...

Easily the softest shooting .45 I have. I really like the gun.

gguess66 wrote:I was told today that 9mm is made to wound people while the 40s&w was made to stop people. Any truth? My other thought was to get 1 in a sub compact and then get another one later Ina compact and even go with a 40 s&w any thoughts?

I'm sure that when Georg Luger designed the 9x19 cartridge (AKA 9mm, 9mm Luger, 9mm Parabellum), he absolutely intended it to be lethal. Furthermore, that cartridge has accounted for as many lives taken since it was designed in 1902 as several other designs combined. It isn't my preference for a cartridge, but then, neither is .40 Cal; but whoever told you that is an idiot who wanted to sound like he knows more than he really does.

We have a SA XD SC 9mm and think that it is the berries. I sold my SA XD SC 45 w/thumb safety to a member hereon. I kinda' wish I had it back but a feller can only carry so many .45's at a time, eh?

I needed the money for another CZ 452 purchase and I surely do loves my CZ 452's.

Oldgringo wrote:We have a SA XD SC 9mm and think that it is the berries. I sold my SA XD SC 45 w/thumb safety to a member hereon. I kinda' wish I had it back but a feller can only carry so many .45's at a time, eh? .

I like it too. Taint for sale. There is one on the board here.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=56832" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

longtooth wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:We have a SA XD SC 9mm and think that it is the berries. I sold my SA XD SC 45 w/thumb safety to a member hereon. I kinda' wish I had it back but a feller can only carry so many .45's at a time, eh? .

I like it too. Taint for sale. There is one on the board here.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=56832" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LT,

That one is full size though.


Joe

If you look into terminal balastics, its how they study the stoping power of a round, most of the calibers out are preaty good out there. These days it's not about how much you carry, but about how true you shot and what happens once the bullet leaves the barral. I read a preaty cool article a while back. Diffrences in penetration was very minor.

stealthfightrf17 wrote:If you look into terminal balastics, its how they study the stoping power of a round, most of the calibers out are preaty good out there. These days it's not about how much you carry, but about how true you shot and what happens once the bullet leaves the barral. I read a preaty cool article a while back. Diffrences in penetration was very minor.

This is true.

With the major advances in ammunition over the last couple of decades, you're good to go with 9mm and up.

Back when I started law enforcement, only the then - new super vel ammo was worth anything because most other ammo didn't expand with any consistency and the only thing you could count on was the diameter of the slug. Bigger was the only way to get better.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

bronco78 wrote:May I humble suggest you get your hands on a XDm .45 compact prior to your finial decision...

Easily the softest shooting .45 I have. I really like the gun.

Its even quite comfortable to shoot single handed!

We bought an XD Subcompact .40 for my wife's everyday carry, and she loves it.

Off the top of my head, I believe it holds 9+1 with the small magazine and 12+1 with the extended grip.

I hated to admit that I shot better with it than I did with my Sig P229 that cost significantly more. I didn't think it had exaggerated recoil.

That said, I'm recommending my brother in law consider the 9mm because he wants to get more range time and is very cost-conscious. I prefer the .40 for the slightly better ballistics and stopping power (read: bigger hole). I would trust a 9mm. Put me in the "nothing smaller than a .38 revolver / 9mm semi-auto camp"

I don't think you can go wrong, but I'm a fan for the .40 as a compromise between the ballistics of the .45 and the capacity of the 9mm for a subcompact frame.

SC go with the 9mm.
I have the .40 and its pretty snappy.

Also, test fire each one and see what YOU shoot better.