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From a different perspective, we have often seen signs like, "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service." From that point of view, if you enter an office to buy services and it is posted with a non compliant sign, though it might not be illegal to carry, and no criminal charges could be enforced, the business could say that they do not serve patrons who are armed, and refuse services, right??

SQLGeek wrote:

Oldgringo wrote: ...leave your clothes here and come with me....

Maybe it's just my stage of life, but I can't say I've encountered that one yet.

Me too. I never had a doctor or nurse expect me to leave my clothes and wallet and car keys and house keys behind.

gdanaher wrote:From a different perspective, we have often seen signs like, "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service." From that point of view, if you enter an office to buy services and it is posted with a non compliant sign, though it might not be illegal to carry, and no criminal charges could be enforced, the business could say that they do not serve patrons who are armed, and refuse services, right??

How are they going to find out?

gdanaher wrote:From a different perspective, we have often seen signs like, "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service." From that point of view, if you enter an office to buy services and it is posted with a non compliant sign, though it might not be illegal to carry, and no criminal charges could be enforced, the business could say that they do not serve patrons who are armed, and refuse services, right??

Businesses with noncompliant signs (or even no signs at all) can still give you oral notice that firearms are prohibited. Once that happens, you either leave, or you are breaking the law.

recaffeination wrote:

gdanaher wrote:From a different perspective, we have often seen signs like, "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service." From that point of view, if you enter an office to buy services and it is posted with a non compliant sign, though it might not be illegal to carry, and no criminal charges could be enforced, the business could say that they do not serve patrons who are armed, and refuse services, right??

How are they going to find out?

Exactly. I can look and see if you have on a shirt or shoes. I can even detect from plain observation if someone is smoking. But if someone is concealign a handgun, how can you tell.

It would be like "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Underwear, No Service." Plain observation usually cannot tell if someone has underwear on.

I know, kids nowadays with their pands below their butt and boxers showing are not included. If I had a business I would put a "No Shirts, No Shoes, Visible Underwear, No Service"

recaffeination wrote:

gdanaher wrote:From a different perspective, we have often seen signs like, "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service." From that point of view, if you enter an office to buy services and it is posted with a non compliant sign, though it might not be illegal to carry, and no criminal charges could be enforced, the business could say that they do not serve patrons who are armed, and refuse services, right??

How are they going to find out?

Well, as they say: Concealed is concealed...

Kythas wrote:Looks to me like Derringers are the only guns prohibited by that sign.

I'm sorry, but this made me guffaw!

gdanaher wrote:From a different perspective, we have often seen signs like, "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service." From that point of view, if you enter an office to buy services and it is posted with a non compliant sign, though it might not be illegal to carry, and no criminal charges could be enforced, the business could say that they do not serve patrons who are armed, and refuse services, right??

Correct! Any business has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

Maxwell wrote:

gdanaher wrote:From a different perspective, we have often seen signs like, "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service." From that point of view, if you enter an office to buy services and it is posted with a non compliant sign, though it might not be illegal to carry, and no criminal charges could be enforced, the business could say that they do not serve patrons who are armed, and refuse services, right??

Correct! Any business has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

Legally, businesses can not refuse service based on race, etc.

WildBill wrote:

Maxwell wrote:

gdanaher wrote:From a different perspective, we have often seen signs like, "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service." From that point of view, if you enter an office to buy services and it is posted with a non compliant sign, though it might not be illegal to carry, and no criminal charges could be enforced, the business could say that they do not serve patrons who are armed, and refuse services, right??

Correct! Any business has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

Legally, businesses can not refuse service based on race, etc.

WildBill,

Yes I do know that but thought it would be restating the obvious. In most places restaing the obvious is necessary to attempt to overcome the "stupid quotient," but that's (generally) not a factor on here.

Maxwell wrote:

WildBill wrote:

Maxwell wrote:

gdanaher wrote:From a different perspective, we have often seen signs like, "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service." From that point of view, if you enter an office to buy services and it is posted with a non compliant sign, though it might not be illegal to carry, and no criminal charges could be enforced, the business could say that they do not serve patrons who are armed, and refuse services, right??

Correct! Any business has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

Legally, businesses can not refuse service based on race, etc.

WildBill,

Yes I do know that but thought it would be restating the obvious. In most places restaing the obvious is necessary to attempt to overcome the "stupid quotient," but that's (generally) not a factor on here.

Obviously.

Mt doctor is a avid gun enthusiast. Asked me to bring gun in so he could see it.