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Jaguar wrote:

VMI77 wrote:Preventing this debt driven collapse would require an IMMEDIATE 40% reduction in government spending.

They can do that!

If this year's budget for a department is $100 million, and next year they are supposed to get $150 million, they can reduce next year's budget to $130 million and that would be a 40% reduction of department spending.

Just gotta think like a bureaucrat. /sarcasm

I deal with too many bureacrats.

That is a true story, and the scariest part is that a LOT of people think that way.


If the economy comes crashing to a halt at the end of this year as predicted, I don't think we'll have to wait 10 or 15 years for this country to implode.

Jaguar wrote:

VMI77 wrote:Preventing this debt driven collapse would require an IMMEDIATE 40% reduction in government spending.

They can do that!

If this year's budget for a department is $100 million, and next year they are supposed to get $150 million, they can reduce next year's budget to $130 million and that would be a 40% reduction of department spending.

Just gotta think like a bureaucrat. /sarcasm

I deal with too many bureacrats.

That's exactly how the budgeting process works...cutting the rate of growth and calling it a budget cut....or in other words, the entire government budget is fiction, even before you consider the off budget expenditures and future liabilities. But I meant a true immediate 40% reduction in actual spending in the current fiscal year, not spread out into imaginary cuts scheduled to take place two presidents from now.

($150MM)(40%) = $60MM
$150MM - $60MM = $90MM

Oh. You said bureaucrats. NM.

All of this has happened before and will happen again.

http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Executive Summary: Glubb notes an eerie pattern emerging when it comes to the durability of human empires: From the Assyrian Empire (859 – 612 BC), to the Arabic Empire (634 – 880 AD), to the British Empire (1700 – 1950), each seemed to last roughly 10 generations, or about 250 years. Glubb posits that each empire goes through six predictable phases, outburst/conquest, commerce, affluence, intellect, and finally decadence and fall. This rise and fall pattern is independent of governmental system (despotism, monarchy, republic, democracy), and the idiosyncratic qualities of the race that begat the empire (African, East Asian, European, Central Asian). This pattern is not affected by the technologies of the time (the wheel, horseback riding, seafaring, gunpowder, electricity, etc) and, while the pattern of the rise of great nations appears to be uniform, the pattern of their breakups is diverse, meaning that while all empires are birthed and live in roughly the same manner, how they die varies greatly.

Texas Dan Mosby wrote:I'd highly recommend those who haven't kept up with past traditions, such as planting, hunting, cleaning game, preserving meat / food in general, do a little research and start practicing. IMO, those skills are going to become necessary in the not so distant future.

Do you have any good recipes for long pig?

As pessimistic as all of this is we need to remind ourselves we were always on the edge of precipice. Tyranny is always one generation away and always was. Take care of now and the future will take care of itself.

Ziran wrote:All of this has happened before and will happen again.

http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Executive Summary: Glubb notes an eerie pattern emerging when it comes to the durability of human empires: From the Assyrian Empire (859 – 612 BC), to the Arabic Empire (634 – 880 AD), to the British Empire (1700 – 1950), each seemed to last roughly 10 generations, or about 250 years. Glubb posits that each empire goes through six predictable phases, outburst/conquest, commerce, affluence, intellect, and finally decadence and fall. This rise and fall pattern is independent of governmental system (despotism, monarchy, republic, democracy), and the idiosyncratic qualities of the race that begat the empire (African, East Asian, European, Central Asian). This pattern is not affected by the technologies of the time (the wheel, horseback riding, seafaring, gunpowder, electricity, etc) and, while the pattern of the rise of great nations appears to be uniform, the pattern of their breakups is diverse, meaning that while all empires are birthed and live in roughly the same manner, how they die varies greatly.

Aaaahhhh... the historical equivalent of unified field theory, as it were....

Somebody put this far more eloquently and accurately then I ever could. Here is the excerpt:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/ ... agedy.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Barack Obama is a symptom of the problem. Ridding ourselves of Obama does not rid the country of the problem. Elections were never intended to be life-changing events.

Unless government can be re-caged, we will always be one election away from disaster. Defeating Barack Obama only pushes the problem off one election. At some point the American people will choose incorrectly and their way of life will be gone. At some point both parties may envision the same dismal course for the country, leaving no choice.

Unconstrained democracy always destroys itself.

But this is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. We are something different that has never been around before. I'd like to think that we would at least TRY to hold it together and ruin some academician's pet theory than simply throw our hands in the air and say "Oh well, nothing we can do about it, just the way it works". It ain't over until the fat lady sings, and I was never the biggest fan of opera, anyway.

Heartland Patriot wrote:But this is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. We are something different that has never been around before. I'd like to think that we would at least TRY to hold it together and ruin some academician's pet theory than simply throw our hands in the air and say "Oh well, nothing we can do about it, just the way it works". It ain't over until the fat lady sings, and I was never the biggest fan of opera, anyway.

Precisely. There are some battles you fight even if no other culture has won them. You still fight and hope that maybe just maybe we can pull our great land back from the brink. If we pull America back from the brink a little this election and then a little more and a little more. Perhaps just perhaps we can keep pulling her back. Evil never rests, so neither can we. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

My doctor asked me if I was doing anything different these days as my blood pressure has been really good, I don't take meds and am, shall we say robust? Simple I said, turn off anything Obama.

Dragonfighter wrote:My doctor asked me if I was doing anything different these days as my blood pressure has been really good, I don't take meds and am, shall we say robust? Simple I said, turn off anything Obama.

I have a proposal for Mr. Obama, Mrs Pelosi and to all their fans and supporters.

Now, 46% of US taxpayers do not pay $0 in federal tax and some or most of those feel that US federal government has to take care of them, provide free healthcare, free food and free education for their kids and free housing.

The proposal,
How about making the 46% a 100%. 100% of taxpayers pays no tax and as matter of social justice are entitled for free healthcare, free food and free education for thier kids and free housing.

if Dems are progressive, reaching 100% of no tax is the ultimate goal, no?

Sign me up!

This is America. We're too big to fail!

They have a new advertising slogan.
"Spend all you want. We'll print more.".