Is this safe to shoot?

[2farnorth]

The rough handling of products through the Wal-Mart distribution centers is the reason I will buy NO crackers or cookies from them. I have had as many as half broken in the box/package.

It takes some real hard handling to reset a bullet deeper, but I guess it could happen.

I once had a part time job of unloading trucks at the mentioned company. I quit after a couple of weeks for "health" reasons. In my opinion it wasn't a safe line of work, at least at that one location.

[Excaliber]

[="StewNTexas"]The rough handling of products through the Wal-Mart distribution centers is the reason I will buy NO crackers or cookies from them. I have had as many as half broken in the box/package.

It takes some real hard handling to reset a bullet deeper, but I guess it could happen.

If only one or two rounds per box were affected, it's most likely quality control at the manufacturing end, not rough handling in the supply chain.

considering most quality control in done by machine when mass producing ammo you would think they get rejected but if the box is dropped or the case of ammo is manhandled it is very reasonable assumption. Strait walled ammo like 45’s can’t handle a heavy crimp so bullet setback in more common than other rounds

Point of curiosity:

If quality control is good and all crimps are uniform, why would only one or two projectiles in a dropped box get set back when all were subjected to the same forces?

[quote-"barstoolguru"]what he said was

Found a couple of these yesterday, not sure if I should use them or not.

now to me "A couple of these" sounds more like a few then two but I could be wrong. so for argument sake let’s say two. Now if someone dropped a hard round object on a box it won't rupture the box but it would still damage the product inside and that just might be the case here. 40 years of truck driving has shown me that things can get damaged without a telltale sign. I delivered a fridge one time and when I opened the box the side of the fridge was damaged, someone had backed a forklift into it and the box just flexed out never showing any damage[/quote]

The "dropped round object" scenario is unlikely but possible if the affected box or boxes were on top of the stack inside the shipping box and the impact occurred on the top of the case. That's a lot of if's, but without more verified data we can never say never.

[Ericstac]

[="StewNTexas"]The rough handling of products through the Wal-Mart distribution centers is the reason I will buy NO crackers or cookies from them. I have had as many as half broken in the box/package.

It takes some real hard handling to reset a bullet deeper, but I guess it could happen.

If only one or two rounds per box were affected, it's most likely quality control at the manufacturing end, not rough handling in the supply chain.

considering most quality control in done by machine when mass producing ammo you would think they get rejected but if the box is dropped or the case of ammo is manhandled it is very reasonable assumption. Strait walled ammo like 45’s can’t handle a heavy crimp so bullet setback in more common than other rounds

Point of curiosity:

If quality control is good and all crimps are uniform, why would only one or two projectiles in a dropped box get set back when all were subjected to the same forces?

what he said was

Found a couple of these yesterday, not sure if I should use them or not.

now to me "A couple of these" sounds more like a few then two but I could be wrong. so for argument sake let’s say two. Now if someone dropped a hard round object on a box it won't rupture the box but it would still damage the product inside and that just might be the case here. 40 years of truck driving has shown me that things can get damaged without a telltale sign. I delivered a fridge one time and when I opened the box the side of the fridge was damaged, someone had backed a forklift into it and the box just flexed out never showing any damage

The "dropped round object" scenario is unlikely but possible if the affected box or boxes were on top of the stack inside the shipping box and the impact occurred on the top of the case. That's a lot of if's, but without more verified data we can never say never.[/quote]


actually he said:

Actually they are federal ammo bought from Walmart. Brought 2 boxes with me, found one in each box, in the same position no less. I am going to send the pic to them and see what they said.

Then I found some in a box of freedom munitions, new ammo, not reloads as well.

to me that means two.

[benenglishtx]

Contact mfgr. Demand replacement.

I don't know if I'd make any demands but it's a good idea to contact the manufacturer. I found this:

in a box of ammo a while back. I posted a picture and started a thread (just as the OP has done, but on another forum) then emailed the URL of the thread to the manufacturer. They were happy to send me a prepaid FedEx label to ship the cartridge back to them. I'm going to send them the entire box with only half of it already shot; I stopped when I found this round.

I fully expect they'll send me a replacement box of ammo. They've been very professional thus far. Besides, this is just fair to them. Whether the cause with my ammo or the OP's ammo is at the manufacturer or with handling somewhere further down the line, there's no way for the manufacturer to fix their problem (or to crawl up Walmart's butt about it if it's a retailer-idiocy problem) if they don't have evidence in their hands.

Just a thought,

Ben

[Silent Professional]

If they stack ammo more than 4 cases high in transit, you'll see this on a regular basis. Also, under the current social climate, almost everyone is selling "seconds" as "firsts". I've had more ammo - related problems since the Clinton ban than in the 40 years prior to that. Almost all of the 5.56 "bulk pack" ammo with the Lake City (operated by ATK, the parent company of Federal) headstamp hitting the market are actually rejects that did not meet MilSpec.