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Re: Obama readies 19 executive actions on guns
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:27 am
by anygunanywhere
longhorn_92 wrote:ajwakeboarder wrote:The comments in that story make me sick to my stomach.
Here is one such comment:
I hope one of those 19 EOs includes declaring the NRA a terrorist organization. That is really all that's needed to put them away for good. Just imagine Wayne Lapierre playing soccer with the Taliban down at Guantanamo. Priceless! Maybe they can teach him how to make a suicide bomber vest and demo it to his NRA compadres. LOL...
Wow!
And lots of folks think this is about gun control.
Welcome to Amerika. I hope you all anjoy your visit to the reeducation facilities. Like I have said - Obama is not going to stop. His timing and tactics will change, but he is proceeding as planned.
Anygunanywhere
Re: Obama readies 19 executive actions on guns
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:18 am
by AggieMike
I am so not surprised that this idiot would go this route. Never mind following due process. He'll try anything, like the small arms treaty to get what he wants. So much for the Government working for the people.....geez so not surprised it is sickening.
Re: Obama readies 19 executive actions on guns
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:21 am
by mojo84
What will our representatives do to counter this?
Re: Obama readies 19 executive actions on guns
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:56 pm
by JALLEN
The House of Representatives is all that stands between us and complete melt-down.
Those guys have to hold the line.
Maybe they should refuse to OK another dime of spending, err, investment, until this blows over. Maybe that is what we're seeing here. "OK, guys, raise the debt ceiling and we'll forget all about this silly gun stuff, OK?"
More likely, not. He's going to break the power of Congress, make it irrelevant.
Support those Representatives who support the Constitution! Abandon those who do not. Senators too.
Re: Obama readies 19 executive actions on guns
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:06 pm
by The Annoyed Man
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... _comboNP_p
By Philip Rucker and Sari Horwitz, Updated: Tuesday, January 15, 12:24 PM
President Obama will unveil a sweeping set of gun-control proposals at midday Wednesday, including an assault weapons ban, universal background checks and limits on the number of bullets that ammunition clips can hold, according to sources familiar with the plans.
The announcement, which press secretary Jay Carney said is scheduled for about 11:45 a.m. at the White House, is also expected to include a slate of up to 19 executive actions that the Obama administration can take on its own to attempt to limit gun violence.
The White House has invited key lawmakers as well as gun-control advocates to appear at Wednesday’s policy rollout, according to two officials who have been invited to the event.
Joining Obama and Vice President Biden for the announcement will be children from across the country who wrote Obama letters after last month’s elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn., Carney said.
Carney declined to provide details on the administration’s gun proposals, and he acknowledged that there are “limits” to what Obama can achieve through executive action alone.
“I will not get ahead of the president in terms of what his package of proposals will include,” he told reporters Tuesday. “I will simply note that the president has made clear that he intends to take a comprehensive approach.”
Regarding executive action, Carney said, “It is a simple fact that there are limits to what can be done within existing law, and Congress has to act on the kinds of measures we’ve already mentioned, because the power to do that is reserved by Congress.”
I emphasize that these are proposals, not necessarily regulations. These proposals will have to pass A) Congress, and B) a constitutional muster in the form of a challenge before SCOTUS if they are too draconian.
What you have to realize is that, from Obama's perspective, the
proposals may have more political value than an actual change in the law. Let's game this out here for a moment...... IF he were to get an AWB passed, it might well blow up in his face the same way it blew up in Clinton's face. Guns are one of the proverbial third rails of politics. However, if his proposals get shot down, he still can claim the "moral high ground" (it isn't REALLY moral, but the media will help him sell that idea anyway, so consider it a practical fact) and say that he "TRIED, oh
LORD how he tried" to get common sense laws passed, but once again, evil republicans in a dysfunctional Congress are responsible for obstructing all that is good and true and right for the country. So even if he doesn't get what he wants with an AWB or any of his other "proposals," he still gets some political benefit from it, and he can use that to fire for effect on other issues like the debt limit, etc.
C'mon......let's do it for the children.
Re: Obama readies 19 executive actions on guns
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:28 pm
by fickman
We're going to spend the rest of our lives hoping (and working) that the Democrats never again get simultaneous control of the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.
We also need to load any bill they propose - if we can't stop it or even question it's ability to slip through - with measures that they cannot support. Any Bill to restrict types of magazines or firearms should immediately have national reciprocity, the end of gun free zones, etc. riding along.
Re: Obama readies 19 executive actions on guns
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:30 pm
by fickman
(On another note, this whole situation demonstrates the folly of directly-elected Senators. The people are represented in the House. The states were meant to be represented in the Senate. I fully believe the Senate would be decidedly more conservative if not for the 17th Amendment.)