Requesting Senior Advice

[SewTexas]

aren't many of your customers in CA? sounds like it might be a bad idea to publicize it, but I could be wrong, I am a couple of times a year

[gdanaher]

Perhaps you could dance around the CHL issue. Advertise that the employees have been offered the opportunity to attend a class on firearms awareness and gun safety in an effort to educate and expand the collective comfort level of the employees.....

[lrpettit]

Thanks again to all of you for your thoughts!

[dac1842]

Well I am going to bring another angle into this, and I hope that Charles or one of the other lawyers on the board will chime in. In today's environment, meaning lawsuit happy folks. In the event of a bad shooting on your property, or by an employee on company time, you might be incurring a great deal of liability by sponsoring this corporately. IANAL, but have had to deal a great deal the corporate liability due to other jobs I have held. Just a thought. hopefully a wrong one.

[lrpettit]

Well I am going to bring another angle into this, and I hope that Charles or one of the other lawyers on the board will chime in. In today's environment, meaning lawsuit happy folks. In the event of a bad shooting on your property, or by an employee on company time, you might be incurring a great deal of liability by sponsoring this corporately. IANAL, but have had to deal a great deal the corporate liability due to other jobs I have held. Just a thought. hopefully a wrong one.

I've been in business for over 22 years. Lawyers advice should always be sought and listened to when weighing the risks versus benefits of making any business or personal decision but if I always followed the lawyer's "safe" advice I probably wouldn't be allowed out of bed. You need to make the business and personal decisions that you think are "right". Similar to another thread in this forum that discusses whether you can legally act as a first responder at an incident at a school, any lawyer would advise against it (I assume but I am not a lawyer). That doesn't mean it is always the "right" answer.

I won't be encouraging people to buy a gun, get their CHL, or reimbursing them for the cost of their CHL (or a gun) should they decide to get it. I don't even want to know if they get their CHL. Hopefully they will all be smart enough not to ask me if they can carry at work.

I send young men and women to provide consulting advice and training to clients in parts of town with barbed wire around their buildings and bars on the windows. They work late at night and park in a controlled access parking garage (when in our office) that has had vehicles stolen, burglarized and vandalized. I'm merely sending them to a course that teaches them about Texas law and non-violent dispute resolution. The fact that it allows you to fulfill the training aspect for a CHL is ancillary. I also believe the chance of me or any of my employees ever having to use a weapon for self defense is pretty darn small (statistics anyone?). Given all of that, I believe the benefits outweigh the risks to my company, to me, and to the employees that choose to take advantage of the sponsored training.

REALLY didn't mean to "jump" at you. I think I had to write this for me.

[dac1842]

I don't consider your response as jumping on me. My experience (25 years of it) indicate the following would happen if there was a shooting
1- The employer sponsored or otherwise encouraged the actor to take a chl class.
2- the employer by sponsoring or encouraging the actor to enroll in the CHL class shares the responsibility for the actors actions.
3-The employer after sponsoring or encouraging the actor to take a CHL class failed to provide, sponsor or encourage actor to maintain proficiency with the handgun and is therefore as negligent as the actor. (assumption here I know)

I fully agree if we always followed the advice of counsel we would stay in our homes, unarmed, and never have a life. My point is the liability of the employer. On personal note, I wish i worked for you! if you ever need an over the hill, bald, fat guy with 15 years of LEO experience, PI experience. corporate investigations and security experience... let me know!
Semper Gumby

[lrpettit]

if you ever need an over the hill, bald, fat guy with 15 years of LEO experience, PI experience. corporate investigations and security experience... let me know!
Semper Gumby

I appreciate the offer but no need at the moment. I might suggest you get some help updating your resume though!