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Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:30 pm
by RottenApple
SF18C wrote:Dang, the wife and I just paid the $72 each last week! (We are both Vets).
oh well it is well worth it and it does my heart good to see Texas take Military service in to account!
Heh. Even if this passes (and I hope it does), it wouldn't take effect until Sep 1, 2013.
Thank you for your service!

Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:32 pm
by tacticool
While I appreciate the discount, I am sometimes bothered by the fact that my native Texan trauma nurse neighbor has to pay more than a Yankee who did a hitch in the motor pool after high school to see the world and learn a trade. I'm also not sure why my neighbor should pay more than somebody who takes redneck probation.
That said, I hope campus carry finally passes.
Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:51 pm
by K.Mooneyham
tacticool wrote:While I appreciate the discount, I am sometimes bothered by the fact that my native Texan trauma nurse neighbor has to pay more than a Yankee who did a hitch in the motor pool after high school to see the world and learn a trade. I'm also not sure why my neighbor should pay more than somebody who takes redneck probation.
That said, I hope campus carry finally passes.
Redneck probation? Do you mean someone from a rural area who is forced by a judge to "join the Army" to get out of trouble? I hate to tell you this, but today's military is an all-volunteer service with fairly high standards that each branch has for letting someone enlist, and it just ain't that easy to get any branch of the military...I'm not saying there aren't waivers for stuff, but its not as easy as people make it out to be.
Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:54 pm
by baldeagle
tacticool wrote:While I appreciate the discount, I am sometimes bothered by the fact that my native Texan trauma nurse neighbor has to pay more than a Yankee who did a hitch in the motor pool after high school to see the world and learn a trade. I'm also not sure why my neighbor should pay more than somebody who takes redneck probation.
That said, I hope campus carry finally passes.
I despise the denigration of people who do so-called menial jobs (like the motor pool). Every job is meaningful, no matter how menial it might seem. Every job is necessary for the military to function. We should not be critical of people who served simply because they were doing "menial" jobs instead of serving on the front lines.
Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:36 pm
by artx
I could be wrong, but I think tacticool was talking about himself and his time in the army.
baldeagle wrote:
I despise the denigration of people who do so-called menial jobs (like the motor pool). Every job is meaningful, no matter how menial it might seem. Every job is necessary for the military to function. We should not be critical of people who served simply because they were doing "menial" jobs instead of serving on the front lines.
Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:51 pm
by puma guy
Krampus wrote:I never understood why someone who owns property in Texas and pays property taxes here should pay more for a Texas CHL than somebody in California who served a few years in the national guard 20 years ago. It's no suprise more and more Texas residents are opting to get a nonresident license from a more reasonably priced state if they're not eligible for discount prices in Texas.
Jack-in-the-Box gives a military discount, too.

Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:52 pm
by MikeHoncho
SB182. What about the K-12 teachers!!!!!!! Is there even a bill filed for K-12 carry?
Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:00 pm
by jmra
puma guy wrote:Krampus wrote:I never understood why someone who owns property in Texas and pays property taxes here should pay more for a Texas CHL than somebody in California who served a few years in the national guard 20 years ago. It's no suprise more and more Texas residents are opting to get a nonresident license from a more reasonably priced state if they're not eligible for discount prices in Texas.
Jack-in-the-Box gives a military discount, too.

For Vets or just active.
Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:11 pm
by FishInTx
Would this veteran discount apply to a renewal also?
Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:22 am
by Rhino1
About 7% of the US population is veterans. Those are people who served their country when others chose not to, some for 20 years or more. And you're going to begrudge those people because they get a discount on the CHL and use that as an excuse to get yours somewhere else? Wow! Just wow!
According to DOD document dated Nov 28, 2011, "just one-half of 1 percent of Americans served in uniform at any time during this past decade". I don't care if you were a cook, clerk-typist, or 11B, thanks for you service.
Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:36 am
by baldeagle
FishInTx wrote:Would this veteran discount apply to a renewal also?
Yes.
Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:10 pm
by DEB
fickman wrote:I don't begrudge veterans getting a discount.
However, our fee is oppressive for many middle class single income families with kids...and it's considerably higher than many other states. Shouldn't there be some sort of economy of scale benefit that makes a larger state's program cheaper to run per person than a smaller state's?

I don't know about economy of scale, but $145 for a CHL I believe is too much. I am a Vet so I will take advantage of the pricing; but we would probably have a bunch more CHL carriers if it was cheaper to do so. Shoot I guess I am kind of a Socialist myself, I believe Government should subsidize firearms for the people. I had a very Liberal Boss whose head would explode when I told him the same. I also used to tell him I was giving to a group within the Combined Federal Campaign that provided firearms training to inner city youth...

Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:25 pm
by RoyGBiv
DEB wrote:fickman wrote:I don't begrudge veterans getting a discount.
However, our fee is oppressive for many middle class single income families with kids...and it's considerably higher than many other states.

I don't know about economy of scale, but $145 for a CHL I believe is too much.

Texas CHL fees are too high. Why can AZ get it done for $60 and VA for $50 but TX is nearly triple?
And that doesn't include the ~$100 cost of the class.
Two thumbs up for HB 485... Vet discounts
Same for campus carry... Although I haven't read the full text yet..
HB 383, IMO, is nothing more than misguided hubris.
HB383 wrote:(b-1) Notwithstanding Subsection (b), a person's license to
carry a concealed handgun issued by another state may not be
recognized and is not valid in this state if the person has
established a domicile in this state. For purposes of this
subsection, "domicile" has the meaning assigned by Section 522.003,
Transportation Code.
Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:57 pm
by MeMelYup
Does anyone know what the cost analysis is for a CHL.
Re: UPDATE: 1/20/13
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:00 pm
by fickman
MikeHoncho wrote:SB182. What about the K-12 teachers!!!!!!! Is there even a bill filed for K-12 carry?
How about homeschool moms and dads then, too???