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I bought my 2-tone 238 a couple years ago. It had been back to Sig twice. The original owner no longer trusted it so offered it for sale with zero rounds through it after the last repair. I bought it cheap. I have never had a bit of problems, not a single failure.

Every manufacturer will produce sub-par products from time to time and on even more rare ocassions those products will make it past QC and to consumers. Consider the Gen4 9mm Glocks, they did more to hurt Glocks reputation than any 10 fanboys insisting that the only gun that can save your live is a Glock. Pick a manufacturer and a product and I will find you examples of poor products. You could always go buy a hipoint if nothing else

One thing I found out with the Sig 238 and 938 is that they need to run a bit wet, I use a gun grease on the slides and attachment points and have no problems. Sig provides grease with their guns for this reason. I have seen many times that people having FTE's was user error and not the gun, soon as they stopped limp wristing it then the issues disappeared.

I break in all my 9mm with 124 gr ammo these days, puts a bit more of a workout on the recoil spring, plus it helps that I re-load so it is not problem making 500 rounds for this purpose...

Salty1 wrote: I have seen many times that people having FTE's was user error and not the gun, soon as they stopped limp wristing it then the issues disappeared...

My wife had quite a few FTEs early on with the Sig and after we diagnosed the problem it was indeed limp-wristing. It was fairly obvious the problem wasn't the gun since it worked fine for me.

I can't shoot one, the grip angle is all wrong.

Salty1 wrote:One thing I found out with the Sig 238 and 938 is that they need to run a bit wet, I use a gun grease on the slides and attachment points and have no problems. Sig provides grease with their guns for this reason. I have seen many times that people having FTE's was user error and not the gun, soon as they stopped limp wristing it then the issues disappeared.

I break in all my 9mm with 124 gr ammo these days, puts a bit more of a workout on the recoil spring, plus it helps that I re-load so it is not problem making 500 rounds for this purpose...

I agree with you on both counts. I grease all of my sigs instead of just oil.

as far as FTE, I can hand my perfectly functioning P238 over to some one and watch them have an FTE every other round. its not as forgiving as some other goes when ti comes to limp wristing.

zero4o3 wrote:

Salty1 wrote:One thing I found out with the Sig 238 and 938 is that they need to run a bit wet, I use a gun grease on the slides and attachment points and have no problems. Sig provides grease with their guns for this reason. I have seen many times that people having FTE's was user error and not the gun, soon as they stopped limp wristing it then the issues disappeared.

I break in all my 9mm with 124 gr ammo these days, puts a bit more of a workout on the recoil spring, plus it helps that I re-load so it is not problem making 500 rounds for this purpose...

I agree with you on both counts. I grease all of my sigs instead of just oil.

as far as FTE, I can hand my perfectly functioning P238 over to some one and watch them have an FTE every other round. its not as forgiving as some other goes when ti comes to limp wristing.

I was amazed that the improved flat recoil spring that Sig sent me for my P238 put an end to the occasional FTEs that my limp wristing obviously caused.